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  • #41
    Originally posted by 1hourRun View Post
    Deontay Wilder was the last WBC HW champ to fight under the 'Bridger-weight' limit. History will recognize Deontay as a exceptional champion for dominating 'Super-heavyweights' under the 'Bridger-weight' limit.

    Deontay's reign as the last WBC HW champion to fight under 'Bridger' weight is comparable to P4P King 'Sugar' Ray Robinson's climb up four weights : from lightweight through light-heavyweight. Most notably, when Ray Robinson challenged Joey Maxim for the light-heavyweight championship ; Robinson gave Maxim a 15 pound advantage ( Ray Robinson 157 lbs to Joey Maxim 173 ).

    Today's athletes are greater in size, for example : Gypsy-Bum Tyson Fury outweighed Wilder by 42 pounds ( Deontay Wilder 231 lbs to Tyson Fury 273 lbs ). Past great ATG HW's like : Jack Johnson, Jack Dempsey, Max Schmelling, Joe Louis, Rocky Marciano, Muhammed Ali, in their prime, would weigh-in under the cruiserweight-limit. As such, these ATG's like Wilder would need to compete at Cruiser or Bridger weight by today's standards.

    The last top HW to be under 6 feet, was Mike Tyson ( 5′ 10″ ), and like Wilder, Mike weighed under the 'Bridger-weight' limit. Mike's size disadvantage was overshadowed by his incredible punching-power, like Wilder. Mike Tyson's short reign was was almost 4 decades ago in the 80's ; another short American champion Roy Jones jr. ( 5′ 11″ ), was the last HW titlist that was under 6 feet tall. Coincidentally, Roy Jones weighed 193 lbs to defeat John Ruiz for the WBA HW title. Jones became the first former world middleweight titlist since Bob Fitzsimmons in 1897 to win a world heavyweight title.

    The science justifies the decision by the World Boxing Council to establish the new 200-224 weight-class. Deontay Wilder is at great disadvantage fighting above 'Bridger' weight, he is proving to be taking great risk and should be given his respect, daring to be great.
    Amen!!!!!!

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    • #42
      Honestly it should have been a new division in between 175 and 200 because that is a huge gap should have been a new weight class called Jr Cruiser or Super Light Heavy at 190 and then bump Cruiserweight up to 205 that's just my opinion.

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      • #43
        Should of made an over 40's seniors division, to force AJ to stop fighting 40+ year olds.

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        • #44
          the name "bridgerweight" sounds kinda gay too

          im not mad at Wilder.

          this was created for Usyk.

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          • #45
            You mean Wilder ?
            (Pulev by the way is under 40 but don't let facts get in the way)

            For Wilder Ortiz was what a 50ish with a bad amateur and pro record, Wilder will fight Christopher Lovejoy next and he actually has a better record than almost all of Wilders opponents.

            They could just make a bum division to force Wilder to fight some one.

            Originally posted by Jkp View Post
            Should of made an over 40's seniors division, to force AJ to stop fighting 40+ year olds.

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            • #46
              Originally posted by lion33lit View Post
              You’re the type that probably wastes all his money on name brand stuff, unable to buy the same quality stuff in a local store. Why?! Tommy Hilfiger says his stuff is the all & all!

              Chicks probably get you to spend all your money on them - on worthless crap because it’s endorsed by people with “status?” ....You probably listen to ONLY what people with money have to say about your closest friends, if it’s unflattering (but not true), you end up dumpin’ em’ all..lol...

              It would be great for ESPN and all the top honcho broadcasters to chime in, but it’s be risky for them to do so, plus their attention is elsewhere at the moment (most likely by choice). And thats what helps give Fury the GREEN light to continue his CHEATING ways: people like you.

              Guys like you that need a certain someone or organization to say “let’s do some investigating” or “we’ve decided to eventually look into such & such - but not yet” are what CHEATERS appreciate more than anything! You help keep their POCKETS FAT, and their opponents in serious jeopardy.

              You wait for someone or anybody with some type of media status to tell you when to look into something?!?!.......that’s for fan girls....
              Tommy Hilfiger?? Chics?? How old r u Bro? And wat do u do for a living?? I can see why ur a Wilder pathetic excuses/conspiracy fan! I am a happily married police officer here in Htown...wat honorable job do u do? Once again - am no fan of Fury...don’t know wat it takes to get that thru ur obviously thick skull! Ur strange words above r all over the place...like Wilders weak excuses and allegations! And nobody made any reference to “top broadcast honchos”....Ring Mgazine, Fox Sports, Boxingscene, SI r not too busy to ignore “supposed allegations” of glove tampering(with alleged video evidence)by Fury the current HW champion of the World! If any major sports media outlet gave any credence to the BS Wilder and his “in denial” fans r shoveling - they would interview Wilder, let him make the allegations and air it - no risk involved! Just like almost all Wilder fans - am sure u will find an excuse for everything. Spiked water, drunk ref, improperly worn gloves, loaded gloves, heavy costume- bottom rabbit hole of excuses(to quote a Boxingscene writer).

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              • #47
                Originally posted by 1hourRun View Post
                Deontay Wilder was the last WBC HW champ to fight under the 'Bridger-weight' limit. History will recognize Deontay as a exceptional champion for dominating 'Super-heavyweights' under the 'Bridger-weight' limit.

                Deontay's reign as the last WBC HW champion to fight under 'Bridger' weight is comparable to P4P King 'Sugar' Ray Robinson's climb up four weights : from lightweight through light-heavyweight. Most notably, when Ray Robinson challenged Joey Maxim for the light-heavyweight championship ; Robinson gave Maxim a 15 pound advantage ( Ray Robinson 157 lbs to Joey Maxim 173 ).

                Today's athletes are greater in size, for example : Gypsy-Bum Tyson Fury outweighed Wilder by 42 pounds ( Deontay Wilder 231 lbs to Tyson Fury 273 lbs ). Past great ATG HW's like : Jack Johnson, Jack Dempsey, Max Schmelling, Joe Louis, Rocky Marciano, Muhammed Ali, in their prime, would weigh-in under the cruiserweight-limit. As such, these ATG's like Wilder would need to compete at Cruiser or Bridger weight by today's standards.

                The last top HW to be under 6 feet, was Mike Tyson ( 5′ 10″ ), and like Wilder, Mike weighed under the 'Bridger-weight' limit. Mike's size disadvantage was overshadowed by his incredible punching-power, like Wilder. Mike Tyson's short reign was was almost 4 decades ago in the 80's ; another short American champion Roy Jones jr. ( 5′ 11″ ), was the last HW titlist that was under 6 feet tall. Coincidentally, Roy Jones weighed 193 lbs to defeat John Ruiz for the WBA HW title. Jones became the first former world middleweight titlist since Bob Fitzsimmons in 1897 to win a world heavyweight title.

                The science justifies the decision by the World Boxing Council to establish the new 200-224 weight-class. Deontay Wilder is at great disadvantage fighting above 'Bridger' weight, he is proving to be taking great risk and should be given his respect, daring to be great.
                Would have respect if he stopped the whining and ridiculous excuses and outlandish allegations...just accept ur 1st “L” and hold ur head high - like AJ did. At least act like the self proclaimed “baddest man on the planet” instead of a crying whining delusional in denial endless excuse spewing Lil girl!!

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                • #48
                  Best sense he's made since the Fury fight.. Bravo.

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by DougalDylan View Post
                    You mean Wilder ?
                    (Pulev by the way is under 40 but don't let facts get in the way)

                    For Wilder Ortiz was what a 50ish with a bad amateur and pro record, Wilder will fight Christopher Lovejoy next and he actually has a better record than almost all of Wilders opponents.

                    They could just make a bum division to force Wilder to fight some one.
                    Pulev is only 39, 8 months. still a spring chicken.

                    I agree Wilder should be fighting top guys as well. I judge fighters on who they fought last and who they will fight next.

                    Wilder fought #1 guy in the world (for 2nd time) in his last fight so no complaints from me about his matchmaking. AJ was busy going life and death with a fat mexican from a mariachi band.

                    No point complaining about wilders next opponent until we know who it is.

                    Ortiz is not 50. But desperate AJ fans love to make out hes "old", yet the whole matchroom stable is still terrified of old man Ortiz.

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by lion33lit View Post
                      That’s what YOU say to fit your narrative. Wilder can think positive all he wants, he knows not every fight is a guaranteed win...especially against someone that’s beaten Wlad already ....Every boxer faces that same reality....Wilder wouldn’t fight if that’s the case, he’d simply say, “there’s no need to, I would’ve won”

                      Fan girls are the ones into all that palm reading crystal ball mind reading stuff. How can you know what Wilder knew he was gonna do to Fury?? When does Fury EVER look like a chiseled Adonis example of boxing excellence?!?! And how do you know Fury wasn’t training, even with all his “depressed” talk?...Your crystal ball says he didn’t because he looked too fat to you?!?!

                      One of the few things “I knew” was Wilder wanted to test himself against the next best thing when Joshua was hiding behind Eddie & Barry. Those two “promoters” had Joshua focusing on playing the ever evasive tough guy while BOOKING your robot highness for every commercial photo shoot they could get their hands on.....

                      On the other hand, I also “knew” Wilder wanted to take on the very best out there, and perhaps even DIE in the ring! That’s what his “actions speak.” Even his excuses give credence to that....
                      Wilder complained and or addressed Fury was to big for him and said the weight advantage was cheating on a supporting YouTube interview . This isn’t the mind set of any heavyweight champion in the history of the sport ,certainly not someone willing to die In the ring . Ha

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