Srs Question: Do PED users retain some benefits even after they stop using?

[Truth Seeker]

Let's say fighter A decides to start using PEDs in order to defeat a certain opponent, or move up weight classes, or whatever.

And after a period of time, said fighter is forced to stop taking PEDs for whatever reason.

Does this fighter keep some of the physical benefits gained from PEDs? Such as weight, size, strength, speed, etc?

Or is all that lost as soon as he gets off the juice?

And what about the mental benefits- the experience and confidence gained from fighting and winning big fights that would have otherwise been unwinnable?

[kushking]

Let's say fighter A decides to start using PEDs in order to defeat a certain opponent, or move up weight classes, or whatever.

And after a period of time, said fighter is forced to stop taking PEDs for whatever reason.

Does this fighter keep some of the physical benefits gained from PEDs? Such as weight, size, strength, speed, etc?

Or is all that lost as soon as he gets off the juice?

And what about the mental benefits- the experience and confidence gained from fighting and winning big fights that would have otherwise been unwinnable?

roids actually cause damage in the long run & unless a fighter microdoses like Shyte right before the fight if they were on gear & stopped before camp it won't have a lasting effect,

If they are taking something powerful to lose weight it can benefit them by them starting out slimmer before camp,but they could've just taken longer to lose weight & worked their ass off instead,so basically only powerful stimulants like Oxilofrine benefit fighters by making it easier to lose weight,but it has the same effect as dieting & working out just at a faster rate with less work.(although it too has side effects that mitigate the rewards)

So basically even though amphetamines help burn fat they don't make a fighter any better & can make them much worse due to weakening the muscles & parasympathetic nervous system. Fighters who need meth to lose weight usually gain weight as soon as they stop using the drugs because they are usually lazy & flabby to begin with & because the body stores fat when they quit. Look at BJS who has looked like a fat whale since stopping the meth,& he had to move up to lhw the next fight after & hasn't gone done to mw since.

Peds are overrated in non hw divisions imho,hws benefit from roids but lighter weights don't imho,lighter weight fighters use powerful amphetamines though but it's not the same type advantage as a hw on roids,its just to make weight.

[Luilun]

I heard yes

[Marchegiano]

Yes they do.

You can get bigger quicker without them. Being off them does not equate to shrinking back down. You have to sit on ass and lose those muscles just like anyone else.

[_Rexy_]

Size and strength come to mind..

[kushking]

When a fighter stops taking roids their body produces excess estrogen,which means they are far worse off than before taking roids. It doesn't surprise me that Dillian was kod & likely lost punch resistance because of roids. Estrogen is the enemy of athletes & any extra estrogen let alone in absence of extra testosterone makes a athlete much weaker & slower as well as more body fat.

Roids simply produce testosterone which makes a fighter feel like their unstoppable but the min the body goes without the extreme testosterone it turns a man into a form of essentially menopause. Roids don't work long term nor do they provide long term advantage besides bulking up,which is the opposite of what fighters should want.

Granted if a fighter is taking a côcktail of multiple microdosed substances as is the norm,they can actually benefit long term. Big Gayby Miller obviously felt weakened without the juice or he'd not have still kept juicing despite getting caught twice.

[SplitSecond]

They say your muscles remember the size you got while on them, but your test tanks to normal levels at least, so there shouldn’t be much benefit without. I’d say drawbacks are more likely. Juice enough and you’ll be dependent on it and that’s all she wrote.

[Zaryu]

It depends on what was taken, how (i.e. with cycles or not) and what other medical procedures are used to maintain the benefits. For example, if someone uses growth hormones, and that person becomes larger, the person wouldn't need to keep using growth hormones to benefit from the performance enhancing drug.

People can also undergo testosterone replacement therapy that could be used to prolong and mask the benefits of other performance enhancing drugs and counter act any estrogen fears.

[_Rexy_]

roids actually cause damage in the long run & unless a fighter microdoses like Shyte right before the fight if they were on gear & stopped before camp it won't have a lasting effect,

If they are taking something powerful to lose weight it can benefit them by them starting out slimmer before camp,but they could've just taken longer to lose weight & worked their ass off instead,so basically only powerful stimulants like Oxilofrine benefit fighters by making it easier to lose weight,but it has the same effect as dieting & working out just at a faster rate with less work.(although it too has side effects that mitigate the rewards)

So basically even though amphetamines help burn fat they don't make a fighter any better & can make them much worse due to weakening the muscles & parasympathetic nervous system. Fighters who need meth to lose weight usually gain weight as soon as they stop using the drugs because they are usually lazy & flabby to begin with & because the body stores fat when they quit. Look at BJS who has looked like a fat whale since stopping the meth,& he had to move up to lhw the next fight after & hasn't gone done to mw since.

Peds are overrated in non hw divisions imho,hws benefit from roids but lighter weights don't imho,lighter weight fighters use powerful amphetamines though but it's not the same type advantage as a hw on roids,its just to make weight.

A simple PCT after the cycle will keep all of the benefits without the estrogen or anything with it. It's why guys dose during camp (or even before camp) but they're clean as a whistle before the fight.

[Roadblock]

Yes, Steroids speed up metabolism which not only promotes faster repair but also allows an athlete to trainer harder for longer, the extra training has a retaining effect when the roids are stopped, lots of performance animals were given steroids' for the enhanced training effect they were less likely to sour up in hard work.