Can Manny's offensive leaps be enough to stop Crawford's Dog-Return-firepower?

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  • Thuglife Nelo
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    Can Manny's offensive leaps be enough to stop Crawford's Dog-Return-firepower?

    How are you guys seeing the clash of style?

    We all know Manny aint afraid of nobody. Its just his nature and confidence to leap with his 1-2, if landing anywhere.

    Manny doesnt have to worry about dehydration. He is a perfect and small Welterweight.

    Because Manny has short arms and lands near range to clip you, such range usually gives him the opporunity to check his opponents chins and stun them, or at least they respect his power onward. If Manny can hurt Crawford as such several times, it could go 12... Defensively, Pac can go 12, the speed and angles to offset Crawford's attacks. Pac has the best Ring IQ of all the Welterweights. I would bet he can dance to Crawford's rhythm.

    Pac needs to go 12 rounds without getting countered. Crawford's fall back plan is to simple counter and fight safe the way Spence did with Mikey. Make no mistake, Crawford can stop Pac too. Their defense gotta be on point
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  • RuleOfTheSpear
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    Yes and No.

    No because Bud's counters are just too effective

    Yes because Floyd said it's hard to tell which of Pac's offensive leaps are traps or real.

    Bud's reach may end up being a disadvantage if Pac's footwork is still there, especially getting inside.

    The real question is, can Manny handle Bud's power?

    Pac has parried jabs of every kind even Floyd, but not Bud's power jabs

    Duran had a terrible gameplan of fighting Hearns by standing up straight like that flatfooted. That's why I said Porter would win against Bud because his style is like Hagler's. That type of in-your-face style ruins any height and reach advantage.

    Pac is hard to guess. He fights mid-distance and sometimes goes inside.

    Bud's height and reach tho are not what is said in boxrec. Boxrec says Brook is 5'9 and Bud is 5'8. That's a damn lie. Bud's real height is 5'10. Pac hasn't faced anyone as big as that since Margarito.
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    • aboutfkntime
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      #3
      Crawford stops Pacquiao at this point

      and yes, he stops Thurman as well

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        #4
        Originally posted by aboutfkntime
        Crawford stops Pacquiao at this point

        and yes, he stops Thurman as well
        He stops everyone including spence at ww.

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          Originally posted by RGJTMMRDCMJRJSM
          Yes and No.

          No because Bud's counters are just too effective

          Yes because Floyd said it's hard to tell which of Pac's offensive leaps are traps or real.

          Bud's reach may end up being a disadvantage if Pac's footwork is still there, especially getting inside.

          The real question is, can Manny handle Bud's power?

          Pac has parried jabs of every kind even Floyd, but not Bud's power jabs.
          I agree. the honest truth is that Pac in REAL LIFE, is head is freaking huge for the size of his body! Its the type of cranium you dont want to bareknuckle with. Ive sparred some guys with those types of craniums with 14oz+ and their heads absorb temple shots easily without damage. Im more of a body puncher tbh or face first cross hitter. Not really my style to loop over the top. Pac has freaky resistance.

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            #6
            Originally posted by Al Broker
            I agree. the honest truth is that Pac in REAL LIFE, is head is freaking huge for the size of his body! Its the type of cranium you dont want to bareknuckle with. Ive sparred some guys with those types of craniums with 14oz+ and their heads absorb temple shots easily without damage. Im more of a body puncher tbh or face first cross hitter. Not really my style to loop over the top. Pac has freaky resistance.
            Yea. I've never seen Pac been hurt by temple shots before.
            But the chin is the key.

            Like Thurman, Crawford would have to bend his knees just to get to Manny's chin.

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            • aboutfkntime
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              #7
              Originally posted by satiev1
              He stops everyone including spence at ww.


              I agree man

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                #8
                aaaaah a fight that will never happen and a fight pacquiao dont even need.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Al Broker
                  How are you guys seeing the clash of style?

                  We all know Manny aint afraid of nobody. Its just his nature and confidence to leap with his 1-2, if landing anywhere.

                  Manny doesnt have to worry about dehydration. He is a perfect and small Welterweight.

                  Because Manny has short arms and lands near range to clip you, such range usually gives him the opporunity to check his opponents chins and stun them, or at least they respect his power onward. If Manny can hurt Crawford as such several times, it could go 12... Defensively, Pac can go 12, the speed and angles to offset Crawford's attacks. Pac has the best Ring IQ of all the Welterweights. I would bet he can dance to Crawford's rhythm.

                  Pac needs to go 12 rounds without getting countered. Crawford's fall back plan is to simple counter and fight safe the way Spence did with Mikey. Make no mistake, Crawford can stop Pac too. Their defense gotta be on point
                  Best and least bias/BS analysis I’ve read here so far.

                  PAC, even at age 43 can still **** with Crawford. He just proved to us last year that even though he’s absolutely nowhere near his prime, he was still so elite compared to these current WW’s that he can still hang.
                  That with MUCH more experience and ring IQ, he can give Crawford a showdown.

                  That said, he’s like 43. Each year that passes can take so much from his capabilities.
                  He doesn’t have the gas tank to go full throttle every round anymore, heck he lost that before the Floyd fight.

                  It’s still a dangerous fight for Manny that he doesn’t really need to take because he has nothing left to prove, and because Crawford does nothing for his pocket book. At all.

                  Imo Crawford doesn’t deserve the PAC fight. He’s been yapping about PAC for the pay 6 years now but yet has still to fight a top 10 opponent himself.

                  Manny in his 40’s fighting young Broner and and undefeated, prime Thurman.
                  He’s still outdoing these so called “top dogs”.

                  Crawford needs to fight DSG Spence winner.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by RGJTMMRDCMJRJSM
                    Yea. I've never seen Pac been hurt by temple shots before.
                    But the chin is the key.

                    Like Thurman, Crawford would have to bend his knees just to get to Manny's chin.
                    Other than the Marquez KO and 4th fight, I’ve never seen Manny wobbled/rocked or on the retreat. I’ve seen him get hit but then back up, adjust, and apply effective defense to gather himself. But he’s not been wobbled or “in trouble” type of hurt. He has incredibly underrated defense. He blocked several of Floyd’s little pot shots in that fight.

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