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  • DaNeutral.
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    #11
    I think I have to agree with the creepy gimp ****EM. Bud beats them all. Uncle Al seems to agree too as do the PBC fans in here.

    You can tell when a PBC fan gimp is worried a none PBC fighter is good. 1 they try to ridicule that fighter any chance they get. 2 They demand that fighter fights all the PBC fighters that are not champions but dont want to see that man face the other champs.

    They want Bud to face Porter, Thurman, Danny Garcia but they spit at the idea of him facing PAC or Spence (the champs) . They want the champs steered away and have the none champs get a crack of taking his belt and bringing it back to their beloved cult of Al.

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    • JakeTheBoxer
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      #12
      f he beats Spence -Danny winner or Pacquiao, I will agree.

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      • Madison Boxing
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        #13
        Originally posted by BangEM
        The bum WIlder and Bud in the same sentence? LMAO.

        I don't know where you got your "consensus" from because I've always said WIlder is a BUM with exaggerated power that can't take a punch. I picked Fury to stop him. And I've always said AJ will spark him in 4-5 rds.

        Don't compare me with a lot of the idiots on this forum.
        ok cool, not calling you an idiot, just saying we've seen this song and dance many times on here when a guy looks like a monster fighting a certain level of opposition and then things fall apart when they step things up. Even most people who didnt rate wilder didnt expect him to lose quite that badly when he stepped it up (beaten like a child, pulled out after a few rounds)

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          #14
          Originally posted by Madison boxing
          ok cool, not calling you an idiot, just saying we've seen this song and dance many times on here when a guy looks like a monster fighting a certain level of opposition and then things fall apart when they step things up. Even most people who didnt rate wilder didnt expect him to lose quite that badly when he stepped it up (beaten like a child, pulled out after a few rounds)
          I think the problem with most of the people on here is that they watch fights for entertainment and jump on the hype-train of whichever has the biggest hype, either due to their own bias or whatever makes them look cool. They don't watch fights to study boxers' strengths/weaknesses. And also, you can't know these (strengths/weaknesses) based off one fight - you've to watch a lot of their fights.

          I wasn't shocked with the way ragdolled and spanked Wilder - the handwriting was on the wall and it was always going to happen. If were to be less clumsy when putting his punches together and had a bit more power - he would've scored a career ending brutal KO against Wilder. Wilder has always been made of glass cue how almost all the pillow-fisted bums he has fought in career hurt him at one point or the other when they hit him. Even Breazeale hurt him with a lazy left short hook while he, Breazeale, was visibly hurt. He was out on his feet when Ortiz landed a hook. And in the first Fury fight - Fury hurt him every time he landed without stepping into his punches.

          So you know all Fury needed was to step into his punches and He'd get him out of there. Also, you judge a boxer's power based on the quality of opponent he knocked out - not by quantity. And that's basically why KO percentage decreases as boxers improve their quality of opponent. In Wilder's case, he NEVER KO'ed any quality opponent hence I never believed in the hype about his power.

          Back to Bud: you just need to look at his quickness, footwork, skills, heart and his boxing IQ - to know he beats them all. Spence was the outlier but do you honestly think a man with a reconstructed face that gets hit a lot stands a chance? Porter's style is too easy for Crawford. And I've give Thurman and Swift puncher's chance because both are too one-dimensional.

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            #15
            He is 33. Hopefully he stays in game long enough to fight that new guys like Boots and Ortiz jr. I would love to see that.

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              #16
              Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer
              He is 33. Hopefully he stays in game long enough to fight that new guys like Boots and Ortiz jr. I would love to see that.
              Bingo, you nailed it. I was just about to say, 'what about Vergil Ortiz Jr?'.
              Not sure if Crawford would be a tad bit too soon for Ortiz, but I think he is the next king of the division.
              In 2021, Ortiz Jr beats Crawford.

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              • boliodogs
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                #17
                Unless he looks poor against Garcia i think Spence beats Crawford. Crawford lost the first two rounds to a shot 14 to 1 underdog cherry pick Brook and has had too much trouble beating Benavidez and mean machine who's exact name I forget. I think Spence would have beaten both those guys quicker and easier than Crawford did. You assume Spence is a lesser fighter after the car wreck and I don't agree with that. He made a full recovery with no permanent damage so why would he not fight as good or better than he did before the crash? A car crash is not like losing a fight and taking a beating. It does not hurt his confidence or determination.

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                • TheUptownKid
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                  #18
                  It’s far too early to say bud beats everyone at ww. Danny has multiple upset victories in his career, Keith is just as strong a boxer as Kell but more elusive, Errol is crazy strong and a hellacious body puncher. Each of these could be problematic for bud. I hope we get the fights soon.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by boliodogs
                    Unless he looks poor against Garcia i think Spence beats Crawford. Crawford lost the first two rounds to a shot 14 to 1 underdog cherry pick Brook and has had too much trouble beating Benavidez and mean machine who's exact name I forget. I think Spence would have beaten both those guys quicker and easier than Crawford did. You assume Spence is a lesser fighter after the car wreck and I don't agree with that. He made a full recovery with no permanent damage so why would he not fight as good or better than he did before the crash? A car crash is not like losing a fight and taking a beating. It does not hurt his confidence or determination.
                    Spence lost more than the first two rounds to brook. And Crawford beat their common opponent much easier. Your opinion is as good as mine, but you have to base it on some advantage Spence would have.

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                    • JakeTheBoxer
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by TheUptownKid
                      It’s far too early to say bud beats everyone at ww. Danny has multiple upset victories in his career, Keith is just as strong a boxer as Kell but more elusive, Errol is crazy strong and a hellacious body puncher. Each of these could be problematic for bud. I hope we get the fights soon.
                      Indeed. And we have Pacquiao, Ugas and Porter also. It is just crazy saying Crawford is better than all those guys before he fights at least one of them.

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