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Who is Inoue's best win?
No way he ranks above Canelo who's resume easily destroys his.
No way he ranks above Canelo who's resume easily destroys his.
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P4P is not about resume
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we have done this EVERY month, whenever the P4P list is updated... FOR YEARS LMAO
ATG = resume ONLY... nothing else applies
P4P = style/skills/form, with a small consideration given to resume
that is literally the difference between ATG and P4P
what you are referring to, is current ATG... which is entirely different, and would most likely be PacquiaoComment
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In this sport, it's implied that the heavyweight champ is the best boxer in the world; that he can beat anyone at lower weights due to his size advantage. P4P is a fantasy gauge that ranks athletes assuming everyone is fighting at the same weight. It's skewed against bigger fighters and kinda ****** anyway because if Pacquiao was as big as Lennox Lewis, he wouldn't be as fast or agile; and Lewis would be faster (and possibly more skilled) as a welter. The fighter's resume doesn't factor in this type of assessment.
But the ATG status does consider a fighter's entire career; and much weight is placed on the number of quality, meaningful fights. This is why Ray Leonard or Roberto Duran, despite suffering losses, are ATGs, while Tank Davis, if he retired today undefeated, would not be considered in that light despite:
1) being a belt holder for the last 3 years,
2) having bestowed upon him a key to the city of Baltimore,
3) Leonard Ellerbe proclaiming that his fighter is the new PPV star.
I agree that Canelo's resume is superior to that of Inoue. Canelo is headed towards ATG status. He can seal it with signature fights at 168 or even 175. Inoue needs several more years of fabulous fights before his name and ATG can be found in the same sentence.
Ultimately, ATG is a status given to fighters by fans of the sport and not by commercial interests. If a boxer sticks to a business diet of risk-free homecoming fights, relying on huge earnings or notoriety via social media will not place him in the same category which includes Ali and Ray Robinson.Comment
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1) Canelo is ranked higher than Pacquiao because his skills are prime and he has a good resume. While Pacquiao has a great resume but his skills are aging.
2) Boxrec has Pacquiao as #8 P4P. It's not out of line to have him in the top 10, he did just beat Keith Thurman in his last fight.Comment
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P4P = style/skills/form
1) skills do not age, fighters age... " style/skills/form "
2) FACT: Pacquiao's resume is MUCH better than Canelo's... it is not even close
Canelo is ranked higher P4P than Pacquiao because P4P is based on style/skills/form... with resume being a secondary consideration
the (secondary) resume factor, is about ticking the style/skills/form boxes... you do not need to have the best resume, you need to have faced good enough opposition to accurately gauge/display your... style/skills/form
we can agree to disagree... but yea, P4P is not based on resume
even Lomachenko was ranked above Canelo in recent years, simply because of style/skills/form... despite not having a similar resume
we can agree to disagreeComment
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Skills erode with age. That's undeniable.
Pacquiao's resume is better than Canelo's. But his combination of skills PLUS resume is not better at the moment.
And that's what the criteria for P4P should be: how good are your skills, and have you proved it against good opposition not just against average foes?
But yes, we can agree to disagree bro.Comment
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