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  • mlac
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    Can we not even call a cash out a cash out?

    First let me say ive been a fan of Brook for close to a decade now, was one of only a few on here that picked him to beat Porter as the big dog. But EVERYTHING here points to a cash out, without even getting into whether hes shot, washed or not

    Hes not with his trainer, Hearn is not even promoting this, its not on Sky, (Premier sports??) due to money. everything about this is about squeezing every penny for Kell, hence no trainer, Does anyone even know whos in his corner? im a boxing nerd & ive never even seen or heard of any of them before.

    But he looks ripped doe! yeah this sceams of people never actually having seen him before....he is shredded in literally every single fight he has ever had?

    His ****ing face looks like he hasnt had a glass of water in a week, he looks very gaunt & drawn in.

    Listen i really hope im wrong but Kell starved himself for his last payday, he hasnt wanted to box for years now, and is only still around because Eddie has dangled the Khan carrot payday infront of his face for years and years.

    Best case scenerio is im completely wrong and Brook is really up for this, winds back the years and we get a FOTY contender, but the more likely scenerio is, we see a few glimpses of Brooks former self, then Bud goes through the gears as he does. Brooks corner pulls him out/quits/gets stopped. and he cashes his final big payday and retires.
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    You’re drawing a load of conclusions while having not listened to anyone on the know’s opinion. Brook’s trainer, not Brook, decided he couldn’t train Brook because he didn’t want to travel, Hearn according to Brook was kept in the loop through the negotiations but he never wanted it and Hearn essentially cite’s no money there. Obviously the issue here is there was no money there for Brook AND Hearn ontop of that.

    Brook is likely to fight his heart out, and he’s trained with the intentions of winning. So no, I wouldn’t call it a cash out.

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      Right so Ingle isnt going because he has travel issues, thats fine. But if he was so serious about beating Crawford why wouldnt he be hooking up with another well respected trainer? failing that....an actual boxing trainer? why is he essentially bringing his mates to arguiably the biggest fight of his career? If that doesnt scream cash out then i dont know what does to you.

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        i doubt we will even see any glimpses of brooks further self, hes completely done, looked like **** against the stripper, has said himself in the past that he cant even make the weight without killing himself and would never fight there again, looks dry as a bone, had his eye sockets smashed up and not fought a half decent opponent in years. but apparently out of nowhere he is going to rewind time and produce the performance of his life? crawfords 1/20 on to win with some bookies but you'd think it was some 50/50 superfight on here the way some people are talking

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          #5
          Originally posted by mlac
          Right so Ingle isnt going because he has travel issues, thats fine. But if he was so serious about beating Crawford why wouldnt he be hooking up with another well respected trainer? failing that....an actual boxing trainer? why is he essentially bringing his mates to the arguiably the biggest fight of his carrer? If that doesnt scream cash out then i dont know what does to you.
          A cash out to me is that Abreu guy vs Ennis, who was a few days out of jail and completely soft and came to lay down. Brook has been training extremely hard for this fight, and I’d be shocked if he doesn’t fight his heart out. So I can hardly call it a cash out. Every fighter goes to where the money is (it’s why Pacquiao even ended up at 147 and why guys like Spence shrink down to campaign there).

          A cash-out implies he came to lay down/survive. And I simply don’t think that’s the case.

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            Originally posted by SplitSecond
            A cash out to me is that Abreu guy vs Ennis, who was a few days out of jail and completely soft and came to lay down. Brook has been training extremely hard for this fight, and I’d be shocked if he doesn’t fight his heart out. So I can hardly call it a cash out. Every fighter goes to where the money is (it’s why Pacquiao even ended up at 147 and why guys like Spence shrinks down to campaign there). A cash-out implies he came to lay down/survive. And I simply don’t think that’s the case.
            Not necessarily, Brook can still try to win and it can still be a cash out, no? i mean do you really think Brook even wants to box at this point? Its very clear to me, and should be to anyone that has followed his career that his heart is not in it anymore and has only been hanging around for the past few years, due to wanting the Khan payday which Hearn dangled in his face when he signed Khan.

            That didnt happen, so here we are at the end of Brooks career taking his final payday as the massive underdog...

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              Originally posted by mlac
              Not necessarily, Brook can still try to win and it can still be a cash out, no? i mean do you really think Brook even wants to box at this point? Its very clear to me, and should be to anyone that has followed his career that his heart is not in it anymore and has only been hanging around for the past few years, due to wanting the Khan payday which Hearn dangled in his face when he signed Khan.

              That didnt happen, so here we are at the end of Brooks career taking his final payday as the massive underdog...
              It does a disservice, because like I said, it implies he’s not really going to try to win.
              So if Brook comes in supreme shape, KO’s Crawford and retires after? Cash out fight? I mean, ok, but what does that mean then? It mean’s nothing. Because It didn’t stop him from putting on a great performance.

              To me he’s obviously up for the fight. And wholeheartedly intends to win. We’ll see how he does now.

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                Originally posted by SplitSecond
                It does a disservice, because like I said, it implies he’s not really going to try to win.
                So if Brook comes in supreme shape, KO’s Crawford and retires after? Cash out fight? I mean, ok, but what does that mean then? It mean’s nothing. Because It didn’t stop him from putting on a great performance.
                I think we're into the weeds about definitons of cash out. Brook comes in shape every fight, dont think you can read into that. what you can read into however is, bringing his mates and not a boxing trainer to the biggest fight of his career.

                Either way, like i said, hope im totally wrong and we get a great fight & Brook winds back the years. I highly doubt that though.

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                  This very well might be the last fight of Brooks career, but I don’t think you can call it a cash out. Idk what his finances looks like, but to me, a cash out is like a 2005 Mike Tyson fighting to pay bills and quitting on the stool. That to me, is a cash out. When you need to fight for financial reasons and you don’t want to.

                  Kell Brook fought the hell out of Spence and GGG before getting beat. I can’t see why he wouldn’t do the same with Crawford, even though he likely will lose.

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                    Originally posted by b morph
                    This very well might be the last fight of Brooks career, but I don’t think you can call it a cash out. Idk what his finances looks like, but to me, a cash out is like a 2005 Mike Tyson fighting to pay bills and quitting on the stool. That to me, is a cash out. When you need to fight for financial reasons and you don’t want to.

                    Kell Brook fought the hell out of Spence and GGG before getting beat. I can’t see why he wouldn’t do the same with Crawford, even though he likely will lose.
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