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  • Sid-Knee
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    #31
    Originally posted by SteveM
    You said it right there. Brook dared to be great but he thought he was better then he was. In that sense he lacked a good manager to guide him with matchmaking because lets face it, the promoter has conflicting interests and so too does the trainer unless he is a father-like figure.

    After Brook fought Porter he should have tried to get a fight with Thurman, Garcia or especially Broner who was still considered good at that time.

    Fighting a very-near-prime Golovkin was ludicrous. I ridiculed Eubank at the time but it is Eubank who is still considered relevant at this time.
    Thurman and Garcia were offered 4 Mill to fight Brook but they turned it down. That's why Brook took the G fight because he was desperate for a big fight. He had the title for 2 years without a big fight and was getting tired of it. The only fight there was Vargas with the WBO but he asked for too much money. The original offer was over twice his biggest payday, but he turned it down and asked for more. Even Vargas's team were surprised and couldn't understand as they said it was a generous offer. So Kell as the A side had to take less money for that drip just to get a fight? Then what? Be continued to be ducked by the rest and still have no big fight to show for it?

    You know what it's like getting American cowards into a ring and their grotesque delusions of asking for money beyond what these jokes are worth. A bum in Wilder turned down 100 Mill for AJ for crying out loud. He was offered the most extreme contract in history from an A side to a Z lister... But still turned it down. If only fighters from outside of North America existed at the weight it would have been fine. But no, it was full of Americans which meant he was in sporting hell.

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    • Damn Wicked
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      #32
      Crawford looks bigger than Brook. Kell's eyes look sunken.

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        #33
        I absolutely love the pearl clutchers in the forum claiming “he looks drained, he looks gaunt, he looks tired, he looks dehydrated.” As if they are in the boxer’s body and know. I remember these same pearl clutchers singing the same dance about Lopez but we see how that ended up. Just SHUSH FFS! Any boxer that isn’t walking around at fighting weight at all times is in some little way “draining” themselves.

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          #34
          Originally posted by Chrismart
          I haven't seen the weigh-in, I thought Brook was looking pretty gaunt in that Kellerman interview though.
          Left to Right who is that?

          Don't know left most or the 2nd from right...

          Looks to me:

          (don't know), AJ, Wilder, Fury, Chisora, Povetkin (don't know), Usyk

          Dope avy and LMK !

          Oh and Crawford via stoppage 9-12

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            #35
            Originally posted by Sid-Knee
            Thurman and Garcia were offered 4 Mill to fight Brook but they turned it down. That's why Brook took the G fight because he was desperate for a big fight. He had the title for 2 years without a big fight and was getting tired of it. The only fight there was Vargas with the WBO but he asked for too much money. The original offer was over twice his biggest payday, but he turned it down and asked for more. Even Vargas's team were surprised and couldn't understand as they said it was a generous offer. So Kell as the A side had to take less money for that drip just to get a fight? Then what? Be continued to be ducked by the rest and still have no big fight to show for it?

            You know what it's like getting American cowards into a ring and their grotesque delusions of asking for money beyond what these jokes are worth. A bum in Wilder turned down 100 Mill for AJ for crying out loud. He was offered the most extreme contract in history from an A side to a Z lister... But still turned it down. If only fighters from outside of North America existed at the weight it would have been fine. But no, it was full of Americans which meant he was in sporting hell.
            meanwhile the fighter most known for ducking brook was a fellow uk fighter in khan and last i checked , an American in Spence made brook quit and another one is about to kick his ass tomorrow. Go figure.

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              #36
              Originally posted by SteveM
              You said it right there. Brook dared to be great but he thought he was better then he was. In that sense he lacked a good manager to guide him with matchmaking because lets face it, the promoter has conflicting interests and so too does the trainer unless he is a father-like figure.

              After Brook fought Porter he should have tried to get a fight with Thurman, Garcia or especially Broner who was still considered good at that time.

              Fighting a very-near-prime Golovkin was ludicrous. I ridiculed Eubank at the time but it is Eubank who is still considered relevant at this time.
              Fighting GGG had nothing to do with managers and promoters and whanot and everything to do with Brook's unhealthy obsession with Khan.

              That fight with GGG didn't just happen because Eubank lost his pen, Brook had already called out GGG way before that incident.

              Brook called out GGG literally a day after Canelo vs Khan was announced.

              Seriously at that point I was willing to believe that Khan must have voddoo'd Brook or something because that kind of obsession is something I have only seen in the movies.

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                #37
                Originally posted by Sid-Knee
                Thurman and Garcia were offered 4 Mill to fight Brook but they turned it down. That's why Brook took the G fight because he was desperate for a big fight. He had the title for 2 years without a big fight and was getting tired of it. The only fight there was Vargas with the WBO but he asked for too much money. The original offer was over twice his biggest payday, but he turned it down and asked for more. Even Vargas's team were surprised and couldn't understand as they said it was a generous offer. So Kell as the A side had to take less money for that drip just to get a fight? Then what? Be continued to be ducked by the rest and still have no big fight to show for it?

                You know what it's like getting American cowards into a ring and their grotesque delusions of asking for money beyond what these jokes are worth. A bum in Wilder turned down 100 Mill for AJ for crying out loud. He was offered the most extreme contract in history from an A side to a Z lister... But still turned it down. If only fighters from outside of North America existed at the weight it would have been fine. But no, it was full of Americans which meant he was in sporting hell.
                Umm...my guy, Spence was already his mandatory when Brook took the GGG fight.

                There was popular and respected American knocking on his door but instead Brook ran after GGG because of his obsession with Khan.

                If Khan can take Canelo he can take GGG right? Smh!

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                • PunchyPotorff
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                  #38
                  Fans saying this will be Bud blowing out Brook simply aren't looking at the whole picture IMO. Brook will indeed be a formidable foe, and will make a good accounting of himself, no matter what happens. There will be some interesting twists and turns throughout... and I am certainly looking forward to an entertaining matchup right here.

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                  • SteveM
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Sid-Knee
                    Thurman and Garcia were offered 4 Mill to fight Brook but they turned it down. That's why Brook took the G fight because he was desperate for a big fight. He had the title for 2 years without a big fight and was getting tired of it. The only fight there was Vargas with the WBO but he asked for too much money. The original offer was over twice his biggest payday, but he turned it down and asked for more. Even Vargas's team were surprised and couldn't understand as they said it was a generous offer. So Kell as the A side had to take less money for that drip just to get a fight? Then what? Be continued to be ducked by the rest and still have no big fight to show for it?

                    You know what it's like getting American cowards into a ring and their grotesque delusions of asking for money beyond what these jokes are worth. A bum in Wilder turned down 100 Mill for AJ for crying out loud. He was offered the most extreme contract in history from an A side to a Z lister... But still turned it down. If only fighters from outside of North America existed at the weight it would have been fine. But no, it was full of Americans which meant he was in sporting hell.
                    Good info Sid - didn't know of those offers.

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                      #40
                      I am kinda mad how I have espn plus but since I don’t own cable I can’t watch the fight live. Atleast I can watch the reruns. UFC wins again.

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