Wilder should have a better resume then he does

**daggum** · 11-13-2020, 12:29 PM

yeah but when you consider ortiz is hte greatest fighter of all time it looks a bit better

**_Maxi** · 11-13-2020, 12:33 PM

He had also signed to fight Povetkin.

**daggum** · 11-13-2020, 12:55 PM

Originally posted by _Maxi

He had also signed to fight Povetkin.

but then flew back home before the b sample was even tested thus forcing the scuttling of the fight and later povetkin was cleared and later wilder lost the lawsuit trying to get paid for not fighting so yeah not the best look

**RJJ-94-02=GOAT** · 11-13-2020, 12:58 PM

Stiverne and Ortiz are good wins regardless of how people spin it.

Tyson Fury is the only HW with top quality wins. Mainly cause the division is generally trash.

AJ and Wilder have some good wins but no elite wins like Fury.

**STREET CLEANER** · 11-13-2020, 01:02 PM

Didn't Wilder had Ortiz and Povetkin next to fight and they failed drug tests? There is not controlling that and the events that will happen after that.

In a perfect world he would had fought those two guys earlier and if AJ would not had lost to Ruiz it would had been a super fight. Fate has changed all of that.

**daggum** · 11-13-2020, 01:12 PM

Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT

Stiverne and Ortiz are good wins regardless of how people spin it.

Tyson Fury is the only HW with top quality wins. Mainly cause the division is generally trash.

AJ and Wilder have some good wins but no elite wins like Fury.

false equivalencies much? johuas resume is a billion times better than wilders. he's beaten 4 of hte top 7 ranked guys at this moment, not to mention others who were highly ranked and wlad albeit coming of a loss. wilder has ortiz...and ortiz... and was stiverne really good...like was he? look at his resume. chris arreola twice...getting ko'd by a bum with 20 losses, almost losing to ray austin. i dont see anything that warranted such a lofty top 3 ranking there. only reason he was ranked so high was becasue he had a belt and they like to move those guys up the rankings for whatever reason. arreola wasnt even top 10 and stirverne is #3 for beating him? doesnt add up!

**MoneyKasha** · 11-13-2020, 01:16 PM

Originally posted by STREET CLEANER

Didn't Wilder had Ortiz and Povetkin next to fight and they failed drug tests? There is not controlling that and the events that will happen after that.

In a perfect world he would had fought those two guys earlier and if AJ would not had lost to Ruiz it would had been a super fight. Fate has changed all of that.

as Denium said

the B sample for Povetkin was clear and Wilder ran away still...which is why Wilder lost in court

**STREET CLEANER** · 11-13-2020, 01:23 PM

Originally posted by MoneyKasha

as Denium said

the B sample for Povetkin was clear and Wilder ran away still...which is why Wilder lost in court

Did Wilder fly to Russia for the fight?

Was the B sample done before the fight date?

**Madison Boxing** · 11-13-2020, 01:27 PM

haymon did a fantastic job with wilder, to get someone of that skill level as world champion is quite something, people even thought he was number 1 in the division at one point when the reality is any of the top 10 would have given him a sound hiding. they avoided klitschko like the plague, openly ducked him in fact saying they werent ready (bum squad was in his 30s) then avoided any name fighter until fury came along and they scented blood thinking he was weak, even then it nearly paid off as he was close to stopping him in first fight but unfortunately he was beaten like a child in the rematch

Wilder should have a better resume then he does