Comments Thread For: Mark Breland Embraces Support in Wake of Allegations Made By Deontay Wilder

[Fire4231]

Just sat through all three videos and watched them objectively.

Although they were clearly made with an agenda in mind, I tried not to pay attention to that or even the random points of contention (Leaning on and supposed legal punching) they interjected that no one I know has a problem with.

This is the problem, the videos show a bunch stills and the stills have all been doctored to highlight details so it makes me question how genuine the stills are. And if the highlighting is photoshopped to look closer to Fury’s glove. You don’t have to highlight Furys gloves to see finger lines.

With the stills of the knuckle vs Palm... they may have convinced me of another way to see it. However the lines don’t seem as straight as Fury’s and the overall glove shape looks much different. I looked up photos of Fury hands and I don’t see a palm line running straight down to be mistaken as a finger.

Fury’s finger lines look a lot more distinct than the other examples. Which verifies his glove brand was padded a lot less.

When it comes to the flopping I am unconvinced by the video... all we saw was stills? Many very out of focus stills. I couldn’t tell were the glove began and ended on one clip.

Of course a glove can bend backwards with ones hand In the catch position. What it doesn’t explain is why the force of the arm moving forward created enough momentum for the glove to flap backwards even further than the average wrist can bend? That shouldn’t happen if hand is in glove? Sorry that would not. I saw nothing on video showing me that in another fight happening live and if I did I would say that fighter needs to be investigated too.

What is even more interesting is it also doesn’t explain Away the series of similar offenses?

Tyson was caught doing the exact same thing in the Hammer fight. His thumb was not in the glove. How and why would that be the case? Tyson didn’t know his thumb wasn’t in the right place? Explain that?

It also doesn’t explain why the glove was so loose all night? Don’t remember another fight where I saw that. Have seen tape come off but never a glove sliding up and down at will? Let’s not forget he has also been accused of the same thing by sparring partners while practicing for Wilder. Even Anthony Joshua said he tampers with his gloves for advantage.

What’s worst is the unexplainable dent to Wilders Mandible. If that is confirmed live and established independently by X-ray I don’t care what the stills say it needs to be investigated.

So **** boy we know you will only believe Tyson is innocent no matter what these series of stills set to comfortable Jazz say.

I will say they make an interesting counter discussion on the micro level. However what they don’t do is eradicate the need for having an investigation.

If you think these stills are so valid you would think you would WANT an investigation to clear Tyson’s even more soiled than usual name. But somehow even with the belief that you have the smoking gun, you and the video producers refuse to have anyone dive deeper? Why is that Pu$$yJuice.

They are exactly the same as Muhammad Ali's gloves in several pictures, the same as many, many fighters over the years who have had the same anomaly caught on camera.

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Watch these and shut the funk up, Clownette.

But at least this clown was willing to have a real discussion.

[MoneyKasha]

Just sat through all three videos and watched them objectively.

Although they were clearly made with an agenda in mind, I tried not to pay attention to that or even the random points of contention (Leaning on and supposed legal punching) they interjected that no one I know has a problem with.

This is the problem, the videos show a bunch stills and the stills have all been doctored to highlight details so it makes me question how genuine the stills are. And if the highlighting is photoshopped to look closer to Fury’s glove. You don’t have to highlight Furys gloves to see finger lines.

With the stills of the knuckle vs Palm... they may have convinced me of another way to see it. However the lines don’t seem as straight as Fury’s and the overall glove shape looks much different. I looked up photos of Fury hands and I don’t see a palm line running straight down to be mistaken as a finger.

Fury’s finger lines look a lot more distinct than the other examples. Which verifies his glove brand was padded a lot less.

When it comes to the flopping I am unconvinced by the video... all we saw was stills? Many very out of focus stills. I couldn’t tell were the glove began and ended on one clip.

Of course a glove can bend backwards with ones hand In the catch position. What it doesn’t explain is why the force of the arm moving forward created enough momentum for the glove to flap backwards even further than the average wrist can bend? That shouldn’t happen if hand is in glove? Sorry that would not. I saw nothing on video showing me that in another fight happening live and if I did I would say that fighter needs to be investigated too.

What is even more interesting is it also doesn’t explain Away the series of similar offenses?

Tyson was caught doing the exact same thing in the Hammer fight. His thumb was not in the glove. How and why would that be the case? Tyson didn’t know his thumb wasn’t in the right place? Explain that?

It also doesn’t explain why the glove was so loose all night? Don’t remember another fight where I saw that. Have seen tape come off but never a glove sliding up and down at will? Let’s not forget he has also been accused of the same thing by sparring partners while practicing for Wilder. Even Anthony Joshua said he tampers with his gloves for advantage.

What’s worst is the unexplainable dent to Wilders Mandible. If that is confirmed live and established independently by X-ray I don’t care what the stills say it needs to be investigated.

So **** boy we know you will only believe Tyson is innocent no matter what these series of stills set to comfortable Jazz say.

I will say they make an interesting counter discussion on the micro level. However what they don’t do is eradicate the need for having an investigation.

If you think these stills are so valid you would think you would WANT an investigation to clear Tyson’s even more soiled than usual name. But somehow even with the belief that you have the smoking gun, you and the video producers refuse to have anyone dive deeper? Why is that Pu$$yJuice.



But at least this clown was willing to have a real discussion.

Lmfao so in your deluded head every debunk video has an “agenda” but every video accusing Fury of cheating is “fair and honest”?

[Fire4231]

Exactly the same excuse the LDBC uses to crap on every non-black fighter

Lol... Maybe you are just sensitive bumski. You seem like your bias runs deep.

I have witnessed a few fighters being underestimated but that’s mostly because the rest of the media is exaggerating their dominance.

That will not align because the media is inflating the hell out of some fighters and anyone concerned with the truth will counter. But sometimes fighters get downgraded too much as a reaction.

But let’s keep it real, not as much as black fighters are downgraded by the mainstream boxing media and its fans.

[MoneyKasha]

Lol... Maybe you are just sensitive bumski. You seem like your bias runs deep.

I have witnessed a few fighters being underestimated but that’s mostly because the rest of the media is exaggerating their dominance.

That will not align because the media is inflating the hell out of some fighters and anyone concerned with the truth will counter. But sometimes fighters get downgraded too much as a reaction.

But let’s keep it real, not as much as black fighters are downgraded by the mainstream boxing media and its fans.

Eastern Europeans/Ex-Soviet fighters were not allowed to even go pro until the 90s and look at what they achieved, and that scares you that your “black dominance” in boxing is waning...... you create a persecution complex yet you hate when white fighters achieve greatness. How did you deal with Wlad’s dominance?

[Fire4231]

Lmfao so in your deluded head every debunk video has an “agenda” but every video accusing Fury of cheating is “fair and honest”?

No in my world, that video wasn’t set up to tell an objective story. Did you see that PhoneySasha? No you didn’t because in your world you want to believe it so bad that you will ignore all that extra BS to claim it.

If that’s all you got from my summary bro eat a ****ing d!ck as stated it still does not remove the need for an investigation. Especially now that Tyson is opting out of a third fight to clear his name.

Dude you are a worm. But I tell you what we could post for the next 60 days and it still won’t stop this from impacting Fury. Your boy is going to have to do something to straighten this out. The law suit is coming either way.

[Fire4231]

Eastern Europeans/Ex-Soviet fighters were not allowed to even go pro until the 90s and look at what they achieved, and that scares you that your “black dominance” in boxing is waning...... you create a persecution complex yet you hate when white fighters achieve greatness. How did you deal with Wlad’s dominance?

This isn’t true. We don’t think like you insecure little batches. Was a big fan of Vitali just thought Vlad was boring.

There is never a time when we don’t have dominate black fighters. So we don’t act desperate or think we should have all the belts.

Lol... But curious who are these Eastern European fighters we should be intimidated by?

[MoneyKasha]

No in my world, that video wasn’t set up to tell an objective story. Did you see that PhoneySasha? No you didn’t because in your world you want to believe it so bad that you will ignore all that extra BS to claim it.

If that’s all you got from my summary bro eat a ****ing d!ck as stated it still does not remove the need for an investigation. Especially now that Tyson is opting out of a third fight to clear his name.

Dude you are a worm. But I tell you what we could post for the next 60 days and it still won’t stop this from impacting Fury. Your boy is going to have to do something to straighten this out. The law suit is coming either way.

Ok I understand that I am dealing with someone that has a sub 70 iq but I’ll still try. You ever heard of something called philosophical logic?. Well in the realm of logic it is impossible to prove a negative. I can say “Fire4231, I want you to prove that there isn’t an invisible pink unicorn” and you respond “well I don’t have the evidence” and then I respond “ well then I guess that proves that such a unicorn exists” NO..... that’s not how logic and reason work buddy. The burden of proof is on you to show us without a shadow of the doubt that there were egg weights. It is not our job to “disprove” it because then you already have the assumption that he had then him in this gloves. I know you are probably not smart enough to understand this but I figured I roll the dice and see if you could comprehend something

[KillaMane26]

Exactly this! How can Wilder be claiming first degree assault that left him severely injured without pressing his case in a criminal court, or even just civil court where the burden of proof is even lighter.

How can he bring all that energy about Fury deliberately cheating, inflicting severe physical and economic harm on him, before apparently denying him a rematch, without doing a damn thing.

Respect to you for not allowing your like for Wilder to cloud your judgment and turn you into a blind fool.

This what happens when you a fan of a fighter and not a fan of the sport. I have plenty of other fighters I'm fans of. The world not gonna end

[MoneyKasha]

This isn’t true. We don’t think like you insecure little batches. Was a big fan of Vitali just thought Vlad was boring.

There is never a time when we don’t have dominate black fighters. So we don’t act desperate or think we should have all the belts.

Lol... But curios who are these Eastern European fighters we should be intimidated by?

Lol that’s because ex soviet countries couldn’t go or until the 90s. Their playing catch up and still there isn’t clear black domination

[Fire4231]

Ok I understand that I am dealing with someone that has a sub 70 iq but I’ll still try.

Lol... If ever I was sub 70 what would that make you dumb ass. You must be used to people saying you are smart due to your English accent. Bro you are not the dumbest person I have ran into on here but you may need to quit bringing up intelligence. Just saying!!

You ever heard of something called philosophical logic?. Well in the realm of logic it is impossible to prove a negative. I can say “Fire4231, I want you to prove that there isn’t an invisible pink unicorn” and you respond “well I don’t have the evidence” and then I respond “ well then I guess that proves that such a unicorn exists”

NO..... that’s not how logic and reason work buddy. The burden of proof is on you to show us without a shadow of the doubt that there were egg weights. It is not our job to “disprove” it because then you already have the assumption that he had then him in this gloves. I know you are probably not smart enough to understand this but I figured I roll the dice and see if you could comprehend something

Lol... No **** boy you really aren’t very smart. And you saying that you are is not convincing anyone. The fact that you keep setting your superiority bar at 70 makes me cringe it says you probably scored in the average range. Guess that is something to be proud of also.

However what you keep losing track of in your one man neuro special Olympics, is I am not the one saying The Invisible unicorn exist or does not exist.

(btw- not sure how it could be invisible and pink is it microscopic? Even then is it truly invisible or just invisible to the naked eye? You need to clean this up.)

What I have said is there is enough evidence to warrant an investigation. You and the peanut gallery on the other hand are saying despite the evidence, there is no way we should be investigating the invisible unicorn.

As such I asked you to explain away the clear evidence that indicates the unicorn just may be there. You and 40 other couldn’t so I said let’s get the study going piss ants. Your inability to address the evidence is what makes the study necessary. So in actuality the burden falls on you to stop the study.

Bro who is making you feel like you are such an intelligent guy? Tell them to stop. You should not have to get embarrassed every day. Set the bar lower and you don’t have to fall as far.