Objectivity, Mayweather, and "ducking"

[canadian_jay]

Hi everyone,
My first post here, but it does not mean I am new to boxing or reading the posts around these parts. I have been following the whole "debate" surrounding Mayweather and his "ducking" of Margarito. There is always an implicit hatred against the person on top of any category, and people will find any reason to justify this hate. In the cause of Mayweather, the hatred is unfounded, and I will show why.

1) Just because an individual does not want to fight someone else, it does not mean it is an act of ducking. For example, if every boxer below Mayweather (in a specific weightclass) decided to ask Mayweather for an up-coming fight, and Mayweather picked the most worthy (will explain later) of the bunch, this does not mean Mayweather ducked everyone else. There are many reasons for not wanting to fight Marg, being afraid or ducking is the least likely of the bunch.

2) Think about it, if you had a chance to fight for the WBC or the WBO, which would you go for?? Exactly!

3) The current debate about Mayweather's achievements are just plain silly. He has moved up several weight divisons, because he has beat most opponents in each, and needed to move up. He started at 129/130 and is now at 147. Margarito has swayed from 146 to 154 and has not fought anyone of any substance. Margarito should be up in the Middleweights, but he would probably be destroyed there.

4) Has all these Margarito "nut-huggers" actually seen many of his fights??? He is slow, his punches are totally telegraphed, and his defense is weak at best. Being boxing fans, do you think he is actually worthy of a fight against Mayweather. Soon he will be another Jeff Lacy when faced against a true champion, over-rated. His resume speaks for itself.

But, in the end, this whole argument will be reduced to irrational rants.

[fabzmm]

I just ignore those mayweather threads now because it's getting ridiclous. I'm still thinking what they are going to say about him once he beats baldomir, mosley, and DLH.

[Easy-E]

I just ignore those mayweather threads now because it's getting ridiclous. I'm still thinking what they are going to say about him once he beats baldomir, mosley, and DLH.

He ducked Margirito.

[fabzmm]

He ducked Margirito.

damn, so it will never end, huh.


btw, go yanks! cant wait for this series.

[Easy-E]

damn, so it will never end, huh.


btw, go yanks! cant wait for this series.

Its an important series.

[adrsan84]

Margarito is ready and offered him a deal that makes dollars and sense.

It's just impossible for me to believe that floyd isn't at least cautious of margarito bc he knows he might lose. Just look at how it's gone down.

1. PBF chooses to fight Zab Judah thinking that his baldomir loss was a fluke, Arum at the time said that the only person who could stop a PBF-Marg fight was judah by upsetting PBF, that didnt happen.

2.Mayweather says he will not fight margarito next because he hurt is hands during the fight and wants to wait for it to heal. also if it makes dollars it makes sense.

3.Arum continues to pressure PBF to make the fight, instead floyd buys out of his contract for 750,000 dollars to become a free agent, probably to facilitate a fight with the golden boy.

4. De la hoya whoops on mayorga but later announces he will not fight again till 07, leaving margarito as a possible opponent for mayweather, this time he leaves his options open and turns his focus to shane mosley, to counter this arum offers had offered 8 million his biggest payday to date.

5.Mosley turns down any possibility of fighting floyd in november and tells him he should go forward with the margarito fight, floyd continues to try to convince him but talks don't work out.

6.) W/ margarito left as the best opponent he still does not accept the deal, instead says the fight would do nothing for his legacy and he hasnt fought anybody, no longer dollars and sense. alsothere was an issue of the money being there in october not november, arum fixes it by offeing it on pbf chosen date, still no deal.

7.) baldomir gets by gatti and enters negotiations with pbf, leaving margarito out of the loop and making a guy who no one saw as plausible before, as a great candidate because he knocked out a faded and undersized gatti.

Basically, it's been different reasons along the way for not fighting him. and some of them contradict themselves, while arum and margarito jump through loops to accomodate him just to get turned down. PBF just doesnt want any part of him, his done to muchto avoid him.

i see this and do not say pbf isnt#1 p4p or the best on the planet, ad also margarito hasnt fought an elite fighter, but the point is WHO CARES, pbf didnt before this (ndou,mitchell,brusselsetc) and the fans shouldn't because he is the best fight out there. his size and workrate make hima good opponent better than baldi,and for more money when HE thinks (supposedly) it will be an easy fight.

that's why i think he is ducking the man, everyone skill and all that other **** aside what has transpired in tha last few months tell it all.