Why is Bivol often left out when we talk about the most talented fighters today?

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  • MoneyKasha
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    #1

    Why is Bivol often left out when we talk about the most talented fighters today?

    we tend to talk about Loma or Canelo or Crawford

    I always feel like Bivol gets the short end of the stick, I mean the man completely dominated world class opposition like it was nothing Pascal, Joe Smith, Barrera

    He's one of the most complete fighters today, he's up there with the Lomas and the Crawfords
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    #2
    Needs a signature fight or big fight. I don't wanna see him fight Zurdo who barely beat Jesse Hart.

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      #3
      Originally posted by YoungManRumble
      Needs a signature fight or big fight. I don't wanna see him fight Zurdo who barely beat Jesse Hart.
      I'll take the Zurdo fight if it's the best they can do. Would be better than the last guy he fought and Bivol is way too inactive right now.

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        #4
        But anyway I think it's because Beterbiev would be favored to beat Bivol. You see Beterbiev make some lb 4 lb lists.

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        • Thuglife Nelo
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          #5
          Originally posted by MoneyKasha
          we tend to talk about Loma or Canelo or Crawford

          I always feel like Bivol gets the short end of the stick, I mean the man completely dominated world class opposition like it was nothing Pascal, Joe Smith, Barrera

          He's one of the most complete fighters today, he's up there with the Lomas and the Crawfords
          I’d say he’s like Regis Prograis. He needs to Unify and show us something, like the great fight it was with Prograis vs Taylor. We couldn’t get Bivol vs Gvozdyk (though I’m hearing Gvozdyk is making a return), but a unification with Beterbiev is what Bivol would need to make P4P. Arthur is already there and beat the man that beat the man.

          Bivol has an excellent work rate, movement, like various Ukrainian fighters we see today, but Arthur’s pedigree with power alone exceeds Smith. Joe is slow as hell let’s be honest. For guys whom are lite with feet and movement as well as having defense make it hard for guys like Smith... Arthur’s experience and Ring IQ would be a level above what Pascal, Smith or Barrera could do. I mean Barrera was floored by Ward...

          We know Beterbiev has been floored twice, but such setups shots and instances could be different for Bivol. Clinching, power, all those dynamics we need to see in Bivol vs Beterbiev. I think Beterbiev would go for broke and hurt Bivol at all costs to win

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          • YoungManRumble
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            #6
            Definitely too inactive for a while and the last guy was a real snoozer negative opponent if I recall correctly.

            I'd give slight edge to Beterbiev since I've only really seen Bivol seriously chin checked once, but it's a good fight.

            Bivol can punch too but more sharp quick shots as opposed to brutal clubbing like power. Give him edge in technique and movement but that doesn't always mean much if some mauler is walking you down. Beterbiev can box too so there's that. Tough one to call. I like both of them and hopefully happens sooner rather than later.

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            • rudy
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              Because I cannot even the last time he fought. Not seen a fight scheduled yet

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              • BaguMka
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                #8
                Bivol will definitely need that signature fight and he gets all fame

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                • boliodogs
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by MoneyKasha
                  we tend to talk about Loma or Canelo or Crawford

                  I always feel like Bivol gets the short end of the stick, I mean the man completely dominated world class opposition like it was nothing Pascal, Joe Smith, Barrera

                  He's one of the most complete fighters today, he's up there with the Lomas and the Crawfords
                  I am a big Bivol fan. He has a great record with some very good names that he either KOed or beat by miles on points. he seldom loses a single round. he is a great boxer and a big puncher and has never been knocked down. I have both Beterbiev and Bivol on my top 10 pfp best list. I am not sure if he can beat monster Beterbiev but he can easily fight at 168 and has repeatedly offered to fight canelo at 168. I think he beats everyone at 168 including Canelo. He is 29 and at his best now and for a few more years. he is a clean fighter with a fan friendly style. He does not run, clinch or fight dirty.

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                  • boliodogs
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Al Broker
                    I’d say he’s like Regis Prograis. He needs to Unify and show us something, like the great fight it was with Prograis vs Taylor. We couldn’t get Bivol vs Gvozdyk (though I’m hearing Gvozdyk is making a return), but a unification with Beterbiev is what Bivol would need to make P4P. Arthur is already there and beat the man that beat the man.

                    Bivol has an excellent work rate, movement, like various Ukrainian fighters we see today, but Arthur’s pedigree with power alone exceeds Smith. Joe is slow as hell let’s be honest. For guys whom are lite with feet and movement as well as having defense make it hard for guys like Smith... Arthur’s experience and Ring IQ would be a level above what Pascal, Smith or Barrera could do. I mean Barrera was floored by Ward...

                    We know Beterbiev has been floored twice, but such setups shots and instances could be different for Bivol. Clinching, power, all those dynamics we need to see in Bivol vs Beterbiev. I think Beterbiev would go for broke and hurt Bivol at all costs to win
                    TS never claimed he could beat Beterbiev. He only said Bivol gets little attention for how good he is. Both Beterbiev and Bivol are your worst nightmares. They are both Canelo beaters if he ever fights either of them.

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