Is Lomachenko a top 30 ATG?

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  • Larry the boss
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    #11
    What is Lomas generation??? and how is he the greatest of it?

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      #12
      Originally posted by GhostofDempsey
      Quite a few would. It's not really important to me if they do or don't because the P4P rankings are opinion based. Some lend more value in resume, while others more value in quality of wins, challenges they faced, fighting styles and overall skill, etc. This is why these lists are controversial, there is no hard criteria that everyone must follow. They are subjective.

      Thomas Hearns knocked out Duran, yet most historians rank Duran higher on the P4P ATG list.
      so why make an Opinion and try to past it as a fact???

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      • edgarg
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        #13
        Originally posted by Boxingking1511
        He's the greatest fighter of his generation, and his resume is absolutely insane.

        Has he done enough to be considered a top 30 ATG?
        No I don't believe so, the list if far larger than you can imaging going back well over 100 years. I'd say perhaps in the first 150, but who to displace would always be a problem. We've lost sight of those marvels of physical and mental endurance to a degree that we just can's conceive.

        I would suggest something which has never been done before and has just come to me, like an inspiration.

        What is needed is a careful division of eras, and have each era with it's own independent tabulations of the best in each weight category down to the worst. We must remember that in the early 1920s nearly 100 years ago, there were more pro boxers in New York City alone, by 20-1 than in the whole USA today. There were about 70 different venues every weekend and many during the week, all with shows producing good fights with good to excellent fighters.

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        • GhostofDempsey
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          #14
          Originally posted by Larry_Rushmore
          so why make an Opinion and try to past it as a fact???
          How am I passing it off as a fact? I stated my opinion, that's what we do here. I didn't quote anyone or post a reference. You are taking this too seriously. My opinion won't weigh into either man's legacy.

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            #15
            Originally posted by Boxingking1511
            He's the greatest fighter of his generation, and his resume is absolutely insane.

            Has he done enough to be considered a top 30 ATG?
            How does one achieve an "insane" resume with 16 fights on it, none against a surefire HOF'er?

            Loma has fought from 2013-2020 professionally. Off the top of my head, Floyd, Manny, Wlad, and Ward all fought professionally during this time period. To suggest he is above any of them all time is not rational.

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            • elfag
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              #16
              yeah undersized rigo quit against him so clearly a top 30, surprised you didnt say top 10

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              • nubianpiye
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                #17
                Not a chance, he's a good fighter but will be forgotten in the grand scheme of things due to his losing his biggest fight.

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                  #18
                  I think you missed a '0' at the end. Perhaps 300

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                  • Dip_Slide
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                    #19
                    Not really. His career hasn't been nearly long or extensive enough for us to consider him in that argument.

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                    • Larry the boss
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                      #20
                      Once again..WHAT IS HIS GENERATION AND HOW IS HE THE GREATEST?

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