Mexicans Leaping weights, daring 2BG: LSC, Mikey, Canelo

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  • Larry the boss
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    #11
    Originally posted by boliodogs
    Fighting in a weight classes you are too small for is not brave. It is ******. If Loma had stayed at 126 or 130 he would still likely be undefeated. Donaire would have a much better record if he had not fought so far above his best weight.Andrade and Jermall are not trying to fool fans.They are world champions who have no trouble making weight and winning fights. They were both champions at 154 in their late 20s FFS! Men grow very little or not at all at that age. Hell, jermall's twin brother still makes 154 with no problem. Canelo went to 175 only once to fight a washed up Kovalev he knew he could beat and then quickly got out of that weight class and now fights at his best weight of 168.as much as you would like to, you don't run boxing. So why don't you not worry about what weight class pro boxers chose to fight at instead of crying that all these boxers should move up a weight class or two?
    huh???? he lost his 2nd fight at 126...

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      #12
      Originally posted by boliodogs
      Fighting in a weight classes you are too small for is not brave. It is ******. If Loma had stayed at 126 or 130 he would still likely be undefeated. Donaire would have a much better record if he had not fought so far above his best weight.Andrade and Jermall are not trying to fool fans.They are world champions who have no trouble making weight and winning fights. They were both champions at 154 in their late 20s FFS! Men grow very little or not at all at that age. Hell, jermall's twin brother still makes 154 with no problem. Canelo went to 175 only once to fight a washed up Kovalev he knew he could beat and then quickly got out of that weight class and now fights at his best weight of 168.as much as you would like to, you don't run boxing. So why don't you not worry about what weight class pro boxers chose to fight at instead of crying that all these boxers should move up a weight class or two?
      Still mad that Canelo did what GGG couldn’t, or better said, was scared to do?

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      • Luilun
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        #13
        Originally posted by Boxfan83
        Lol, to be fair LSC made out like a bandit (career wise) working with Al Haymon. No way does a guy like Leo earn 4 different weight titles with anyone else. I do agree he was a sacrificial lamb but he was fattened up nicely and enjoyed his ride.
        You’re right he was sacrificed his 4 belts were acquired by cherry picking due to too belts I never considered Leo a A level fighter B level

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        • Boxfan83
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          #14
          Originally posted by Luilun
          You’re right he was sacrificed his 4 belts were acquired by cherry picking due to too belts I never considered Leo a A level fighter B level
          Yeah man, the way I felt about it was if Leo won last night, it would've erased my thoughts of his path to being a 4 weight champ. The KO kinda confirmed to me he was well managed. He has that blue collar working mans style, trains like a Champion but doesn't have that fast twitch to take him to the A level. I hope he retires.

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          • just the facts
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            #15
            Originally posted by Santa_
            It's a money game they'll go where the cash is at.
            You on suicide watch?

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            • just the facts
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              #16
              Originally posted by Al Broker
              Santa Cruz is still the Super WBA Featherweight Champion. Should he defend even at that weight gives him leverage as many there don’t hit as hard as Tank Davis. Haymon knew all that, and LSC can still provide business for PBC at 126, which was the plan.

              Meanwhile Big Charlo and Andrade fool fans that they are ideal at that weight.
              Mikey and Leo for sure but Canelo moving up to fight Fields and a short camp, badly faded Kov isn't even close to anything like daring to be great.
              Last edited by just the facts; 11-01-2020, 01:27 PM.

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                #17
                Originally posted by Boxfan83
                Lol, to be fair LSC made out like a bandit (career wise) working with Al Haymon. No way does a guy like Leo earn 4 different weight titles with anyone else. I do agree he was a sacrificial lamb but he was fattened up nicely and enjoyed his ride.
                Exactly. Leo has been around for a long time and was notorious for fighting construction workers. The fact that he did well against Carl Frampton, which was a big step up from years of tomato cans, means to me he wasn't out of his element getting matched up with Tank

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                • just the facts
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Boxfan83
                  Lol, to be fair LSC made out like a bandit (career wise) working with Al Haymon. No way does a guy like Leo earn 4 different weight titles with anyone else. I do agree he was a sacrificial lamb but he was fattened up nicely and enjoyed his ride.
                  Not just that but it's SERIOUSLY doubtful Leo makes the kind of money he did with PBC.

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                  • Thuglife Nelo
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by just the facts
                    Mikey and Leo for sure but Canelo moving up to fight Fields and a short camp, badly faded Kov isn't even close to anything like daring to be great.
                    Jacobs, GGG, Fielding, Kovalev all bigger than Canelo.

                    You guys forget the paradox of weight classes and whom are ideal within it. Canelo, if he still prefers to drain at 160 like the rest of these bozos in Jermall Charlo, GGG, Andrade... then he’s doing himself a disservice. All these guys too could fight a Fielding at 168, but they CHOOSE to stay at 160 to prove what!? LMAO. Canelo just staying ACTIVE in yo-yo weights from 168-175 is better than milking 160 strictly. Jermall Charlo is bigger if not the same as Canelo on fight night if they were to fight at 160. Jermall Charlo and Jacobs are about the same imo. They are BIG for 160 and ideal at 168. Jermall Charlo is sooo soft he should be chasing Caleb Plant per Haymon, easy fight to make. Since neither of these fighters call each other out knowing they make a good payday and probably PPV shows everyone that they are not elite like Canelo. Eye test alone proves all that.

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                    • frantic fighter
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                      #20
                      Canelo hardly dared to be great by facing an, old washed alcoholic coming off a beating a month in a half before the fight. Also he really only went up one weight class because he can no longer make 160, anyway.

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