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  • Pizza Pasta
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    Question about Peekaboo

    Greetings boxing fam,
    sorry if this is kind of a newbish question, I'm pretty green to boxing, and all the gyms are closed. But what is the powerline in peekaboo boxing?? Is it through the big 2 knuckles, or bottom 3 like Dempsey? I've been unable to get a clear answer to this, and it's driving me nuts.

    Thanks in advance
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    Originally posted by Pizza Pasta
    Greetings boxing fam,
    sorry if this is kind of a newbish question, I'm pretty green to boxing, and all the gyms are closed. But what is the powerline in peekaboo boxing?? Is it through the big 2 knuckles, or bottom 3 like Dempsey? I've been unable to get a clear answer to this, and it's driving me nuts.

    Thanks in advance

    Still the small knuckles bud. Always the ring finger.

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      #3
      Originally posted by Pizza Pasta
      Greetings boxing fam,
      sorry if this is kind of a newbish question, I'm pretty green to boxing, and all the gyms are closed. But what is the powerline in peekaboo boxing?? Is it through the big 2 knuckles, or bottom 3 like Dempsey? I've been unable to get a clear answer to this, and it's driving me nuts.

      Thanks in advance
      They don't talk about the power line in the peekaboo style.

      But Cus D'Amato fighters will throw left hooks with both a horizontal AND a vertical fist.

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        #4
        Originally posted by Marchegiano
        Still the small knuckles bud. Always the ring finger.
        Can anyone confirm?

        Is this what Cus taught at his gym?

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          #5
          Originally posted by Pizza Pasta
          Can anyone confirm?

          Is this what Cus taught at his gym?
          You've misunderstood kinematic chains. There is no technique that would call on you to break your hands or wrists. The only thing a punch with any power behind it aiming your big knuckles is going to do is break your ****.

          Your wrist can take direct impact off the ring finger and have direct links to the foot. Your wrist doesn't line up with the other side of your hand the same way. You would break your ****.

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            #6
            Originally posted by Marchegiano
            You've misunderstood kinematic chains. There is no technique that would call on you to break your hands or wrists. The only thing a punch with any power behind it aiming your big knuckles is going to do is break your ****.

            Your wrist can take direct impact off the ring finger and have direct links to the foot. Your wrist doesn't line up with the other side of your hand the same way. You would break your ****.
            So does this mean even the straight punches are thrown with the bottom 3? Seems counterintuitive. And what about the "boxer's fracture"?

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              #7
              Originally posted by Pizza Pasta
              So does this mean even the straight punches are thrown with the bottom 3? Seems counterintuitive. And what about the "boxer's fracture"?
              The Boxer's Fracture is exactly what you're trying to avoid.

              Yes, even in straight punches the Dempsey "power line" holds true. I'm not sure where you picked up the term power line and may have assumed you knew more than you do.

              I think you might need to take a look at Jack Dempsey's Championship Boxing: Explosive Punching with an Aggressive Defense.

              Everything I'm about to say should be checked and that's really the book to check it with. Jack's not just a pro, he's one of the greatest p4p punchers of all time and he does a great job explaining **** in terms any person could understand.

              Anyway, the short version goes like this. You aim your ring knuckle for two reasons, one being because there is more power behind the smaller knuckles, the most powerful being the pinky actually, and the other reason being because the ring knuckle is the safest due to bone structure. Basically, it's the most direct connection from knuckle to wrist. All your hand bones come into your wrist at an angle, but, the ring knuckle's angle is minimal but comparison to outright not existent in a lot of people.

              Jack explains this then explains his falling step technique and pairs that with his jolt. A jolt is like the puncher's version of a jab. You've actually seen it loads, but, everyone just calls them jabs now. a "power jab" is really a jolt a lot of the time. Anyway, a jolt, as I remember it, is where you step forward with your lead, allow gravity to drop you down low while you generate forward momentum with your back foot and release a straight lead hand onto the opponent aiming the ring knuckle at the intended point of impact.

              Kinematic chains is a term that comes from physics. I make prosthesis for a living. Jack's "power line" in the actual real science of the physics of the human body is called kinematic chains. A newton's cradle is a basic display of kinematic chains at work, but, honestly I think using the term was a mistake. It's probably best to use the term power line and learn along boxing terms. If you're up for some science though, that is what you want to look into.

              You're generating energy with your legs and trying to put it into your fist then into your opponent in the form of power. No matter how much power you create you have to be able to receive the same amount back into your fist. Newton's laws are still laws for a reason and the equal-opposite reaction thing is very true. If you punch a head for 500 ft-lbs you're also receiving 500 ft-lbs into your fist. If your bones are not directly aligned you will break them.

              For reference, Marciano put out 925 ft-lbs, A 357 Magnum caps out around 800ft-lbs at point blank range. Marciano could not only shatter your bones but his own as well.

              knuckle, wrist, elbow, shoulder, back, hips, knees, and feet all need to be lined up so that when the bones impact on one another they all do so as straight as possible.

              Image snapping a bone in half. Like say a chicken bone. Easy **** is you hold the ends and put pressure to the center. Try crushing one by standing it up and putting pressure directing on the end of it. A bit harder to do. chicken bones so it's still easy but you'll definitely feel how bone structure demands alignment.


              You can do things like back hand, and it can hurt, but without direct alignment you are not getting as much power as your body is capable of.


              Hope that helps, but really, get that Dempsey book. It's been online for free for a while.

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