Comments Thread For: Oleksandr Usyk Tested, Wins Tough Decision Over Derek Chisora

[Boxing Goat]

Usyk will be brutally beaten up and stopped by ether Fury or Joshua.

David Haye knocked out a peak Derek Chisora 'Usyk has just struggled with him, and was whining about body shots throughout the entire fight'.

Usyk is completely overrated.

You keep thinking that mr. delusional

[PRINCEKOOL]

You are bringing facts but it is kinda harsh and negative.

You doesn't seem able to give him any props.

Usyk moved up in weight and CW to HW is not an easy jump. Not many had CW had success at HW.

Usyk can be a top 10 P4P fighter.

Spence is in the top 3 for beating Brook and Porter, so I have no problem having Usyk in the TOP 10. Still I don't give a sht about P4P, it is utter fantasy.

Fury beats any man on this earth in a boxing match IMO. So smaller Usyk not doing as good does not mean that he is "completely overrated".

He was the 4 belts undisputed champ at CW, so I would def not call him "completely overrated."
Hoping you can understand my point of view.

I take your point of view onboard.

Uysk is a solid good fighter, but? He is overrated in the sense, of how people where hyping his actual boxing abilities 'Seems like the media and certain groups within boxing, want to make people believe that he is some kind of transcendental fighter'.

Forget Tyson Fury's size, 'Fury's skill set is greater than Usyk's, and even Joshua technically does some things better than him' I don't rate his skills super highly, he is solid and fundamentally sound 'But nothing great'.

Fair play to him for giving the Heavyweight division a go 'The more the merrier'.

[Boxing Goat]

Hmmmmm. Prime Haye I think is very underrated. The thing Haye and Usyk have in common is thru should had stayed at Crusier.

Haye won and defended a HW title so right there you're off base in my opinion. He just had the misfortune to be there in the Klitschko era.

With Usyk, he just beat a very motivated Chisora in the same fashion that Fury did in their first fight. The jury is out on his HW run as of yet but at least he's daring to be great. That's all I can ask of a fighter. I respect that immensely. Plus he's a really likeable guy.

[Boxing Goat]

Even Juan Carlos Gomez "Pantera Negra" was a far better heavyweight. It's a shame he wasted his heavyweight career dealing with promotion issues. He was already too old by the time he fought vitali

I'm so glad you said that because Vitali was 2 years older than him

[Boxing Goat]

So much for Chisora battering Usyk within a few rounds

Tony Bellew needs to take Chisora's wang out his mouth. That was easy work. 118–110 for me, 116–112 at the furthest stretch of generosity to Chisora. Before the haters get all worked up...I was rooting for Chisora. But he was never gonna win.

I know sparring is sparring and all that...but Usyk has bossed Klitschko around in sparring sessions for nearly a decade. So those saying AJ and Fury would destroy him would get a bigger shock than Chisora being turned into a glorified sparring partner. As for chinny Wilder, that guy who got dropped hard by a cruiserweight and has more holes in his defence than me grandad's favourite sock, he wouldn't see the eighth round, and that's only because Usyk is a slow starter.

Not sure if you're right or not but you had me lmmfao either way

[Boxing Goat]

Tyson Fury does not have known power 'He still completely dominated Chisora in their second fight' Fury put some serious distance between himself and Chisora etc.

Uysk was moaning and whining about body shots, was also being thrown about 'Chisora was gallant as ever, but I honestly think he has performed better in more recent fights'.

Usyk is not a pound for pound top-10 fighter 'He is completely overrated'.

What is wrong with you mate? Did you watch the fight last night?

Why would Usyk be difficult for Joshua to out box? Chisora was out jabbing him at times, and in every single round was hitting body parts.

Note: Usyk was not a puncher at Cruiser-weight ether, Tony Bellew was dead at the weight 'I would of picked Bellew to beat him at heavyweight' I really don't rate Uysk super highly.

So, again.....what you're saying here is that you're comparing what Fury did against Chisora in the rematch to what Usyk did in their first fight. Would it not be safe to say that Usyk would also do far better in a rematch after having the chance to analyze what happened in the fight and make adjustments, like Fury did?

Look, we know you're not impressed and that's perfectly fine, but with so many posts here and all the underlines, you're coming off as more of a hater than an analyst.

[Boxing Goat]

I take your point of view onboard.

Uysk is a solid good fighter, but? He is overrated in the sense, of how people where hyping his actual boxing abilities 'Seems like the media and certain groups within boxing, want to make people believe that he is some kind of transcendental fighter'.

Forget Tyson Fury's size, 'Fury's skill set is greater than Usyk's, and even Joshua technically does some things better than him' I don't rate his skills super highly, he is solid and fundamentally sound 'But nothing great'.

Fair play to him for giving the Heavyweight division a go 'The more the merrier'.

Can you give examples of the media and certain groups within the sport that are overrating Usyk? Links would be good too. Not so sure I see what you're talking about unless its his promotional team where in that case......wtf do you expect, exactly?

[PRINCEKOOL]

You keep thinking that mr. delusional

David Haye is a Former Unified Cruiser-weight Champion, technically should of been undisputed, and former WBA heavyweight Champion of the world with two defenses 'Out of Haye's 28 win's, he won 26 via Knock-Out'.

Probability is a branch of mathematics which analyses numerical descriptions of how likely an event is going to a happen in part. 'There is a high probability, that David Haye would of ether 1: Beat Usyk or 2: Completely sparked him out'.

Peak for peak 'Usyk has just struggled to separate himself from Derek Chisora' where as David Haye not only met Chisora head on, he canceled out Chisora as a force in the fight.

David Haye, when he invaded the heavyweight division was routinely separating himself from the competition'.

Usain Bolt used to separate himself from his competition, when it was time to really compete 'He was putting clear meters between himself and his closest rivals'.

David Haye in boxing terms, separated himself from Tomasz Bonin with serious violence, separated himself from Monte Barrett, separated himself from Audley Harrison, John Ruiz 'Usyk has been unable to separate himself from a Chazz Witherspoon who took the fight on short notice, or Derek Chisora 'Usyk has not shown the boxing world, that his skills are so great? These guys are going to get blown out or they won't touch me.

Nothing delusion in what I have stated, I have analysed the evidence 'David Haye as of right now, was the better cruiser-weight and heavyweight in terms of pure ability'.

[techliam]

David Haye is a Former Unified Cruiser-weight Champion, technically should of been undisputed, and former WBA heavyweight Champion of the world with two defenses 'Out of Haye's 28 win's, he won 26 via Knock-Out'.

Probability is a branch of mathematics which analyses numerical descriptions of how likely an event is going to a happen in part. 'There is a high probability, that David Haye would of ether 1: Beat Usyk or 2: Completely sparked him out'.

Peak for peak 'Usyk has just struggled to separate himself from Derek Chisora' where as David Haye not only met Chisora head on, he canceled out Chisora as a force in the fight.

David Haye, when he invaded the heavyweight division was routinely separating himself from the competition'.

Usain Bolt used to separate himself from his competition, when it was time to really compete 'He was putting clear meters between himself and his closest rivals'.

David Haye in boxing terms, separated himself from Tomasz Bonin with serious violence, separated himself from Monte Barrett, separated himself from Audley Harrison, John Ruiz 'Usyk has been unable to separate himself from a Chazz Witherspoon who took the fight on short notice, or Derek Chisora 'Usyk has not shown the boxing world, that his skills are so great? These guys are going to get blown out or they won't touch me.

Nothing delusion in what I have stated, I have analysed the evidence 'David Haye as of right now, was the better cruiser-weight and heavyweight in terms of pure ability'.

Simple counter to this limited point of view - styles make fights

Usyk has the best combination of lateral movement, stamina and footwork at the top of the HW division. Fury is a close second, but Fury also has size and power to boot. You have very strange criteria in analysing fighters, very rigid and inflexible

[Rick Taylor]

Usyk has the best combination of lateral movement, stamina and footwork at the top of the HW division.

he just went life and death with a bum