Stronger chin: Danny Garcia or Errol Spence.

[YoungManRumble]

No I didn't know anything more abut Ali's poem, apart from the "float like a".. I didn't like Ali one bit. Dubbing himself "The Greatest" meant nothing to me because he wasn't the greatest. Not even to himself. I thought your name was to do with that obnoxious individual's mono-tonal bellow...Because of the picture it seemed obvious. I regret (I really don't but am being polite) I know nothing about "hip-hop" nor what it is. I'm a confirmed life-long (from teen years) enthusiast and instrumentalist of New Orleans Jazz, of around the King Oliver period.

Personally I'd rather read essays/articles by well known boxing experts, than books about a single individual. That is, when it is boxing. I know other fighters come into the stories, but mainly as backdrops. The writer always digs up something discreditable, because the human animal loves to hear about sordidness in the lives of others.. I don't. Writers even invent or amplify events to cause more of that unhealthy interest.

I got a present of the greatest fight in the history of boxing,.... the Joe Louis destruction of Max Schmeling in less than a round about a year before the WAR.. I got it over 10 years ago, and, although I'm familiar with almost all the events described, and normally would be happy to be reminded of them, can not interest myself enough to complete it. I'm about 1/4 or 1/3 of the way through, and haven't touched it for about 2 years.

Yes, I'm lazy, but have a good excuse.

Right, I forgot there was a connection to avatar/name too. That was only partially coincidence.

The book isn't about a single individual however, it's about Tris Dixon tracking down the forgotten fighters and ones who vanished from the limelight to interview. Pretty raw book and more about the darker side of boxing or after boxing than the sport itself.

As for the music. You are obviously an older guy, and not going to expect you to like rap music. However I like Jellyroll Morton, Professor Longhair , Dr. John, Allen Toussaint, Trombone Shorty, Rebirth Brass band among others for some more modern New Orleans sound. Well Jellyroll ain't exactly modern but "The Crave" is one of my favorite piano pieces. Oh and how could I forget my absolute favorite pianist James Booker. Last but not least indeed. I play piano and guitar so even as an entitled millennial I can appreciate some good music, though not sure you're into any of that since you seem to like the really traditional brass stuff.

Anyway nice talking with you as always.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

Spence has been tested but he passed them well. The 3 guys he fought were all good fighters but not huge punchers. Brook, Porter , and Mikey. All 3 are good punchers, not great. I would say Brook or Mikey punch harder than Shawn for one punch, but Shawn has That dawg in him. Shawn is physically strong. However Spence outsized all those guys with the exception of Brook. Garcia is a strong guy too. I still think Garciaś best punch is better than any of those guys best punch.

Danny is the biggest puncher he’s faced tbf. Danny doesn’t seem to have fully carried his power from 140 up to 147 though. Hasn’t had many KO’s at 147.

[Ochoa780]

I have not seen Danny Garcia hurt, staggered, stunned. Or I just missed some of his early fights.

Lucas definitely hurt him and danny didnt crumble. He sent his mouthpiece into the third row lol he got wobbled by Thurman early too

Danny has a set of whiskers man.

Like most have said Spence was walking through a lot of porters shots but I think I favor garcia here

[Rick Taylor]

Before the accident, was Spence's chin as good as Danny Garcia's chin?

Danny has said that if he's able to land as often and as easy as Porter was landing, then it could be a short night.

If they start trading hard shots, whose chin will hold up?

spence is clearly weak chinned

[KillaMane26]

Spence got rocked by Brook a couple of times!

U can't say he ain't been tested. That was his test

[Fangedgrowl]

Spence got rocked by Brook a couple of times!

U can't say he ain't been tested. That was his test

So true killa

[edgarg]

Right, I forgot there was a connection to avatar/name too. That was only partially coincidence.

The book isn't about a single individual however, it's about Tris Dixon tracking down the forgotten fighters and ones who vanished from the limelight to interview. Pretty raw book and more about the darker side of boxing or after boxing than the sport itself.

As for the music. You are obviously an older guy, and not going to expect you to like rap music. However I like Jellyroll Morton, Professor Longhair , Dr. John, Allen Toussaint, Trombone Shorty, Rebirth Brass band among others for some more modern New Orleans sound. Well Jellyroll ain't exactly modern but "The Crave" is one of my favorite piano pieces. Oh and how could I forget my absolute favorite pianist James Booker. Last but not least indeed. I play piano and guitar so even as an entitled millennial I can appreciate some good music, though not sure you're into any of that since you seem to like the really traditional brass stuff.

Anyway nice talking with you as always.

Yes I am definitely an "older guy"... For the dark side of boxing I recommend "The Set Up" with Robert Ryan and Audrey Totter. At one time it was regarded as the finest film about the REAL rotten business of boxing, but has become rather forgotten. It is very true to boxing life as I know it to be. An added advantage is that Ryan was a top amateur Heavyweight boxer in Dartmouth College for the whole time he was there, 4-5 years.

As for Jazz, I know andhave heard, maybe have tapes of several you mention I don't care all that much for Jelly Roll as a piano player but his "Red Hot Peppers" were top class...except when he messed it up by insisting on taking solos. He dragged the upbeat tempos in a laborious manner. At least that's my opinion. I like the King Oliver Creole Jazzband" best, Johnny Wiggs, etc. not the brass band stuff.......and as a jazz clarinet player nobody better than Kenny Davern, although a bit more modern. I just liked his playing. He made a terrific recording of "A closer Walk with Thee" with his Salty Dogs, not easy to find even on youtube today. He really "takes off" and the up-tempo choruses doing 4-5-6 in a row , each one very different, getting higher and sweeter than any other I've heard.

What about Canada...??

[YoungManRumble]

Yes I am definitely an "older guy"... For the dark side of boxing I recommend "The Set Up" with Robert Ryan and Audrey Totter. At one time it was regarded as the finest film about the REAL rotten business of boxing, but has become rather forgotten. It is very true to boxing life as I know it to be. An added advantage is that Ryan was a top amateur Heavyweight boxer in Dartmouth College for the whole time he was there, 4-5 years.

As for Jazz, I know andhave heard, maybe have tapes of several you mention I don't care all that much for Jelly Roll as a piano player but his "Red Hot Peppers" were top class...except when he messed it up by insisting on taking solos. He dragged the upbeat tempos in a laborious manner. At least that's my opinion. I like the King Oliver Creole Jazzband" best, Johnny Wiggs, etc. not the brass band stuff.......and as a jazz clarinet player nobody better than Kenny Davern, although a bit more modern. I just liked his playing. He made a terrific recording of "A closer Walk with Thee" with his Salty Dogs, not easy to find even on youtube today. He really "takes off" and the up-tempo choruses doing 4-5-6 in a row , each one very different, getting higher and sweeter than any other I've heard.

What about Canada...??

You certainly know your stuff.

About Canada, I meant my previous username before I changed it with the points feature was something ****** like dot.c.eh. As in .ca, the Canadian web domain, with the "eh" as the expression we are known to say. I originally registered just to see some pictures and never expected to post actively. The more I posted the more I hated it and eventually settled on this as RumbleYoungMan was taken.

[edgarg]

You certainly know your stuff.

About Canada, I meant my previous username before I changed it with the points feature was something ****** like dot.c.eh. As in .ca, the Canadian web domain, with the "eh" as the expression we are known to say. I originally registered just to see some pictures and never expected to post actively. The more I posted the more I hated it and eventually settled on this as RumbleYoungMan was taken.

Oh I see, I thought you actually lived in Canada and was curious as to where. Don't forget to look up those I mentioned Young Stribling, Nicolino Locche, Young Griffo, but you'd have to add what I sent you about Griffo...And watch that movie The Set-Up:. I'd like your opinion on all of them. Just for clean, literate, conversation. If not, no harm.

I played with 2-3 top British Jazz bands.....only when their regular player was absent. When I came to mid-Vancouver Island, I eventually gathered a Jazz band for about 10 years with the very same guys. 5 piece, Cornet, clar. banjo, bass, drums w/drums doubling on 2nd cornet. Between up-island and close to Victoria, about 100 miles, we played at most of the functions, often being booked for regular yearly events, sometimes 2-3 jobs in a day. Great stuff and very enjoyable as well as being paid for having fun. We were all retired. I got fed-up, because a new band-member infected the others about a particular job he didn't want to do and which we'd played every year. It was a big deal. So I abruptly disbanded, and walked away. Later in Victoria I had another similar group, including 2 of the original members.

I forgot to mention" Billie and Dee-Dee Pierce". Just the two of them often, Billie played piano and she sang, Dee-Dee played a very nice, laid back smooth cornet, in the old syncopated Jazz way. Later they joined the Preservation Hall band, as most retired oldtimers did. That band was not to my liking at all. No cohesion. Maybe because they had no real leader.

At the same time , I really liked the Benny Goodman trio and Quartette, Artie Shaw, certain tunes..like "Lady Be Good". He does a great job on it in a particular recording which has a rollicking 8 bar intro. with Shaw taking the lead in break to the melody. The problem is, that they'd make the same tune, often several times, with different lineups and arrangements, not always likeable...Ian Henry (Garber) is a good friend of mine, since childhood. Look him up. by me I mean. Neva Raphallo, the British Jazz and Blues singer was great.(weighed about 200 lbs) I liked Joe Daniels and His Hotshots, and George Scott Wood and his Swingers, very much. So not only New Orleans Jazz, but good music of all kinds, including Viennese Waltzes by the Masters, as well as much Opera, and the Great Singers, from Nellie Melba and John McCormack, Gigli, Caruso, Jan Pierce, Yossele Rosenblatt onwards. That last appeared in the first talking movie "The Jazz Singer" with Al Jolson starring. Yossele was the most famous ***ish Cantor in the World, and sang 2-3 songs so beautifully...they were prayers of course..but beautiful. I have another story similar to this in which I myself took a part, because there was another very famous cantor and he had family..whom I knew.

I'd better stop now, Music, Books, and Boxing, are my 3 pet "likes".

[elfag]

well post accident obviously favor garcia, for him nothing has changed. With spence you have to wonder if there are any mental blocks with him having his teeth replaced, I know i would always be wondering will they hold up or are my new fake teeth going to all come out.