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  • REDEEMER
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    #51
    Originally posted by IRONCHINHAGLER
    Totally agree about Wilder...but Breazele slaps with his punches a lot of the time...His power at Hw is not all that.

    Breazeale had about a 90% K.O record and stopped some guys faster then Wilder did he fought ,if ones things certain in boxing knock percentages don’t lie . Breazeale can crack ,he had Wilder on unsteady legs with a glancing blow not that his chin is great but If Breazeale does anything right it’s punch . Looking close at both fighters and their fights Wilders right hand isn’t that far from Breazeales when it lands .

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    • IRONCHINHAGLER
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      #52
      Originally posted by REDEEMER
      Breazeale had about a 90% K.O record and stopped some guys faster then Wilder did he fought ,if ones things certain in boxing knock percentages don’t lie . Breazeale can crack ,he had Wilder on unsteady legs with a glancing blow not that his chin is great but If Breazeale does anything right it’s punch . Looking close at both fighters and their fights Wilders right hand isn’t that far from Breazeales when it lands .
      Wilder has one punch power....Breazele does not have the same and often slaps. When looking at his Ko ratio - also look at the quality of opposition. He actually went the distance against c-level Fred Kassi. He may have had Wilder momentarily stunned...but so did Ortiz, Molina, and obviously Fury - who is not a heavy power puncher. He didn’t bother AJ much - who also has a suspect chin.

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      • theface07
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        #53
        Originally posted by TheCell8
        Well, he better hope that AJ doesn't choke against Pulev. AJ fought neutered against Ruiz, we'll see if he's mentally recovered from that fight.
        Mentally recovered from what? Beating Ruiz in the rematch? There was a question about whether he was in the right place mentally, and physically for that matter after he got stopped by Ruiz in the first fight. Those questions were answered in the rematch. He fought smart and stayed disciplined, following his gameplan. AJ haters can say he ran all night but why would he stand there and trade with the shorter, stockier guy with fast hands who can punch after that's how he lost the first time? Insanity is doing the same thing twice and expecting different results.
        He made the right adjustments and righted a wrong in the rematch. You people need to understand how boxing works. Joshua used his height, reach, footwork and jab to ensure his victory against Ruiz. It doesn't matter how he won. Most of you people critcizing Joshua for his tactics in the rematch are the same people who said AJ was done and would get KO'd in the rematch, clearly displaying your hypocrisy and partiality.

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        • Jack Rivers
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          #54
          Hopefully Wilder wears a lighter suit when he takes his kids trick or treating.

          Who knows what's going on. No one does. Just all speculation. Forman disappeared after his loss to Ali. Wilder did have some conversations with him so who knows what's going on.

          Never heard or seen pics of wilder supposedly having surgery which is odd.

          It would be a shame for him to take his ball and go home after losing 1 fight. So what, you lost a fight. What makes a man is how he recovers when he falls. No one is going 50-0 unless you are like Mayweather and dodge fights. Mayweather never held every belt in one division which is why his 50-0 is nothing but a *50-0.

          My personal opinion is that Wilder knows he can't beat fury so instead of declining the fight and forfeiting, he's just playing out the contract to expire with covid and this mysterious surgery... Then wait and see if AJ beats Fury to maybe come back then... But who knows it's all speculation and guessing.

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          • FlyingFJ
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            #55
            Originally posted by DaNeutral.
            How did that Wilder qoute go for him in his last fight? That was his problem, he expected feather fist Fury to outbox him but he would get his 1 chance in those 12 rounds.
            Everything you quote or say before the fight will not always materialize. I am sure you know that. Fury is the best heavyweight around, skilled wise and he fought a perfect fight on the night. He won fair and square. Deontay wasn't given any inch to land his bombs. Game over.

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            • Fire4231
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              #56
              Lol... Whatever **** boy Hearn, counting titles they are about to lose. Don’t even have any leverage and he is already looking to hold the titles hostage. Dazn Is sinking and the curse continues. The Cliff is coming and junior couldn’t manage a lemonade stand. The defense plan continues but still there is no offense. Where the fights at Eddie Boy?

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                #57
                Originally posted by REDEEMER
                No former champion is trash with 10 title defenses, is he the most unskilled ? I’d say yes but that comes with a 6”7 frame ,fast hands and power . We may get a better grasp on him if he ever fights DDD or Joyce , he would go up a notch for me if he can get a win with a puncher who can box behind a jab , he doesn’t have a win with any sizeable prime fighter that fits that description.

                If he fails to get a real win with a prime guy noteworthy he will look like a joke though with all the bravado he’s put out there for years of one name one face one champion .
                He’s trash at the champion level. Let’s be honest if their was just one belt he would had never been champion. Looked who he beat to get that belt. Then look at his defenses. That would never happened in the 80s and 90s. He would had lost in the early 2000s too.

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                • GhostofDempsey
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                  #58
                  Wilder hasn’t been very vocal about wanting one either. That loss really got in his head.

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by IRONCHINHAGLER
                    Stiverne won a VACANT title by beating Fat Arreloa...There is ur champ!! Stiverne was a fat can by the time they had the rematch!! Where is Stiverne now?? If u think Stiverne was a legit top 10 Hw just bc the corrupt wbc made him # 1 (bc his promoter was Don King )in their rankings - then u really DKSAB!! Get freaking real Bro!!!!
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                    Times 1000000x ^^^^^^

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                    • el_mas_chingon
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by IRONCHINHAGLER
                      Stiverne won a VACANT title by beating Fat Arreloa...There is ur champ!! Stiverne was a fat can by the time they had the rematch!! Where is Stiverne now?? If u think Stiverne was a legit top 10 Hw just bc the corrupt wbc made him # 1 (bc his promoter was Don King )in their rankings - then u really DKSAB!! Get freaking real Bro!!!!
                      Around that time he fought his way up the rankings to fight Arreola, I was a big fan of Arreola and Stiverne earned my respect and then by taking Wilder to a decision also cemented he was legit, until the rematch!


                      But tell me this, if Stiverne wasn’t a top 10 then name me who was top 10 or 20 that you think were ranked ahead of Stiverne at that given time?

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