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  • Earl-Hickey
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    #41
    Originally posted by Watcherw1
    chisora is 36

    wilder is 35

    one has 1 loss, the other has 9 and been knocked out/stopped more

    wilder is fine, hope chisora wins this weekend
    It's not really comparable is it

    Chisora has always been a flat footed plodder who chugs forward in straight lines, he's basic.

    Wilders entire style is based around explosive reflexes, he jitters around and launches into openings

    Point is age is going to hit a fighter with wilders style a lot worse than Chisora.

    I've said it before when Wilder loses that half a second off his reflexes he's FINISHED

    And that will happen any day now.

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    • DaNeutral.
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      #42
      Originally posted by FlyingFJ
      A man who risked his life in the ring for his daughter and that too with very limited skill is happily spending his time with his family during this pandemic. Some people are not happy about it because they couldn't do 5% of what Wilder did for his family. He has accomplished his dream to give his family a wonderful life style. He is around 35 years old and to lose to a number one Heavyweight at this stage of his life is not bad at all. If that was his last fight of his career, then I fully respect his decision. I am happy to have been seen some of his brutal knockout wins. It was exciting to watch him, especially when he is losing and suddenly one shot turns the fight around. He may have said so many odd stuff but one of Wilder's quotes was very true "As I always say, these guys have to be perfect for 12 rounds, I only need to be perfect for two seconds, and then, in the blink of an eye, it's bam, baby, goodnight!
      How did that Wilder qoute go for him in his last fight? That was his problem, he expected feather fist Fury to outbox him but he would get his 1 chance in those 12 rounds.

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      • Ake-Dawg
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        #43
        Originally posted by Earl-Hickey
        It's not really comparable is it

        Chisora has always been a flat footed plodder who chugs forward in straight lines, he's basic.

        Wilders entire style is based around explosive reflexes, he jitters around and launches into openings

        Point is age is going to hit a fighter with wilders style a lot worse than Chisora.

        I've said it before when Wilder loses that half a second off his reflexes he's FINISHED

        And that will happen any day now.
        Hasn't Chisora continued to lose yet also continues to get fights and make great money.

        Wilder can continue to fight and his power will keep him competitive and attractive as an opponent. He really only needs a fight or two more to be able to retire and live off investments.

        If his goal is to prove himself to a certain sector of fans, he's finished and in trouble. However if his goal is to keep boxing and make a good life for his family, he can fight 3 more years.

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        • QballLobo
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          #44
          Wilder turned down $120 million and a shot at being undisputed heavyweight champ and calling his own shot the rest of his career.
          Instead he took an L for a fraction of that and I think he’s done in the heavyweight title picture.
          By the time AJ or Fury would circle back to him he’s on the wrong side of 35. He probably takes another loss before then as well.

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          • Mmann2e
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            #45
            Originally posted by observer
            Wilder should have never considered an immediate rematch. He was dominated by Fury in a way that doesn't lend itself to excuses.

            Wilder should build his confidence up and rematch Fury in a couple of years.

            I don't understand all the sudden hate for Wilder. The guy was exciting to watch. If you're a one trick pony and someone takes away your trick, you won't have a plan B. Was that really a surprise for anyone?

            Sure, he talked a lot of trash, but what were you expecting? Did you expect he'd put glasses on and get a Ph.D.?

            HW division needs Wilder. We need an exciting vulnerable puncher. We want other fighers to try their luck and roll the dice and fight him. So, the sooner he comes back, the better. Just not against Fury.
            Who in America wants to pay for his fights? You're only as good as your last fight, he lost p and everyone moved on it happens.
            Last edited by Mmann2e; 10-28-2020, 08:24 AM. Reason: Misspell

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            • Mmann2e
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              #46
              Originally posted by Earl-Hickey
              It's not really comparable is it

              Chisora has always been a flat footed plodder who chugs forward in straight lines, he's basic.

              Wilders entire style is based around explosive reflexes, he jitters around and launches into openings

              Point is age is going to hit a fighter with wilders style a lot worse than Chisora.

              I've said it before when Wilder loses that half a second off his reflexes he's FINISHED

              And that will happen any day now.
              He's done no power in the world is going to make him money might as well enjoy time with his family.

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              • IRONCHINHAGLER
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                #47
                Originally posted by REDEEMER
                Breazeale is a very underatted win in the fashion he did it even though Wilder could have ended up on the receiving end of the loss ,it would always be a who hits who solid first type fight . Wilder was always a knockout waiting to happen even Molina showed that but he still had to win those fights even if it was mapped out for him .

                Wilder won’t be in my current top 5 unless he beats an actual top 5, Ortiz doesn’t count the second time . There’s all this talk about top 10 but when you defend the title 10 times you are supposed to have multiple top 5 fights and Wilder never accomplished that .
                Totally agree about Wilder...but Breazele slaps with his punches a lot of the time...His power at Hw is not all that.

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                • IRONCHINHAGLER
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by el_mas_chingon
                  How are you going to call the champion a can and say he’s not a top 10 heavyweight? He beat Stiverne for the title by decision then rematched him and Knocked him TF out! Some people really DKSAB!
                  Stiverne won a VACANT title by beating Fat Arreloa...There is ur champ!! Stiverne was a fat can by the time they had the rematch!! Where is Stiverne now?? If u think Stiverne was a legit top 10 Hw just bc the corrupt wbc made him # 1 (bc his promoter was Don King )in their rankings - then u really DKSAB!! Get freaking real Bro!!!!
                  Last edited by IRONCHINHAGLER; 10-28-2020, 08:45 AM.

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                  • b4dmusic
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                    #49
                    Tyson Fury

                    It's clearly obvious that the Ped glove cheating Fury is afraid of a fair drug free rematch with Wilder and he and fast Eddie will do anything to avoid that fight yo save Fury from being carried out of the ring next time they meet if Fury will fight Wilder again

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                    • Silver Spear
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                      #50
                      As far as I am concerned Wilder is on the boat.....to the after life. He made his coin and handed his payment over to the boatman. This is why he is nowhere to be seen or heard of.

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