Comments Thread For: Arum Doubts Wilder's Manager Has Read Contract For Fury Trilogy

[Ake-Dawg]

I don’t have to check anything there was never a confirmed date in 2020 and certainly no date in December to fight . Facts don’t sit well with you guys but here’s more proof Finkle is lying ,this is from 2019.

"It will all get worked out in early December as far as the site, but the 22nd is the date," Finkel said. "The site is not 100 percent set, but I'm not concerned about getting the site done. We'll meet about that and about when to make the official announcement, when to have a press conference. These are things that still need to get done."

Right here he’s talking about a February 22nd date in 2021 , all the proposed fight in December is a lie .

So basically you're intent on believing what you want to believe and ignoring any statements made contrary to whatever argument you intend to make. There has to be more life available.

[DaNeutral.]

Finkel has read it, he is just playing shady business like did with any potential Joshua fight. When Arum said the contract had expired and Finkel said that was Arums "opinion" it became clear old man Winkle was acting slippery again. Signed dates in contracts are not a matter of opinion. Stone cold facts and Finkel would of stated such had Arum been lying.

I just don't think they want it due to lack of gate receipts and another pasting from Fury dents Wilders PPV worth but he would never come out and say it incase its deemed a weak move so just act all vague and shady like they did with the Joshua talks and hope some dumb casuals swallow that load.

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The third fight between heavyweight champion Tyson Fury and Deontay Wilder will not take place on Dec. 19 as planned, Top Rank promoter Bob Arum told ESPN on Wednesday. The reason? Football.

"We're moving off because there's five conference championship games that day and night, plus two NFL games," Arum said. "So we can't go with the 19th; we're looking at other dates right now because ESPN advised us, and Fox advised the PBC [which promotes Wilder]."

The fight might not be moved later, such as into the early part of 2021. Arum said it could be staged, "a little earlier in December."

Which was shot down , nothing about nothing here ,and if you think this is reason to take legal action on a proposed date or month please do not become a lawyer ,o.k you can rant away but the entire thing is a joke ,I’ve already posted several things showing Finkle lied and is out right wrong yet you you entirely ignored real and direct quotes I posted from both guys even posted Finkle admitting the fight is getting worked out in December where meetings will begin , the same month you claimed was an agreed to fight ? Ha

A fight with no negotiating since the rematch is not going to hold up if legal action is taking ,why you Wilder whackeys show ignorance on here all the time I’ll never know . End of story .

[LZBoxing]

I love how people become attorneys overnight and comment on a contract they have never seen themselves.

My only question is WHERE IS DEONTAY WILDER?

I've seen articles saying he's ready to fight, but no one has confirmed he's actually training. Then I've seen articles saying he hasn't been training at all due to a bicep injury.

He has a whole lot of people speaking on his behalf but he's eerily quiet. Wilder has never been the quiet one in the room. It would really help if he came out and actually spoke. There's so much uncertainty because he went completely dark since February basically.

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Finkel has read it, he is just playing shady business like did with any potential Joshua fight. When Arum said the contract had expired and Finkel said that was Arums "opinion" it became clear old man Winkle was acting slippery again. Signed dates in contracts are not a matter of opinion. Stone cold facts and Finkel would of stated such had Arum been lying.

I just don't think they want it due to lack of gate receipts and another pasting from Fury dents Wilders PPV worth but he would never come out and say it incase its deemed a weak move so just act all vague and shady like they did with the Joshua talks and hope some dumb casuals swallow that load.

It’s up to Fury to take it or not , Finkel knows they aren’t fighting this year so now he’s doing his social media stunt .

Fury knows the big name is AJ and it comes with a big pay day ,in his mind he can always come back to Wilder if he’s still around after A.J should he win .


Anyone who insists however team Wilder will waste their time trying to convince anyone they have a case to make Fury fight a team with who never attempted communication and has a contract expired is a very foolish person . Team Wilder will claim ducking and move on , Fury will take the fight that makes most sense ,that’s about it . Wilder fans will be their usual belligerent selves and ignore Wilder just doesn’t match well in that fight and would have nothing to do with avoiding.

[Blackstarr]

Finkel has read it, he is just playing shady business like did with any potential Joshua fight. When Arum said the contract had expired and Finkel said that was Arums "opinion" it became clear old man Winkle was acting slippery again. Signed dates in contracts are not a matter of opinion. Stone cold facts and Finkel would of stated such had Arum been lying.

I just don't think they want it due to lack of gate receipts and another pasting from Fury dents Wilders PPV worth but he would never come out and say it incase its deemed a weak move so just act all vague and shady like they did with the Joshua talks and hope some dumb casuals swallow that load.

You’ve hit the nail on the head. I had a feeling that Arum was could be speaking facts this time around, and Finkel’s weak response fully confirmed it. Since when did a contract expiration date become a matter of opinion.

The way Wilder’s team have been deliberately vague and opaque in this scenario makes me suspect even more that they’re the true reason behind Wilder not making even one unification attempt.

[DougalDylan]

Arum doubts Finkel can read ..

[Ake-Dawg]

Which was shot down , nothing about nothing here ,and if you think this is reason to take legal action on a proposed date or month please do not become a lawyer ,o.k you can rant away but the entire thing is a joke ,I’ve already posted several things showing Finkle lied and is out right wrong yet you you entirely ignored real and direct quotes I posted from both guys even posted Finkle admitting the fight is getting worked out in December where meetings will begin , the same month you claimed was an agreed to fight ? Ha

A fight with no negotiating since the rematch is not going to hold up if legal action is taking ,why you Wilder whackeys show ignorance on here all the time I’ll never know . End of story .

Your ultimate problem is you think everything is some Wilder fan vs you discussion like its high school. Grow up my guy. If you can't have a discussion about boxing or the boxing business without an emotional need to assume others are trying to defend a fighter they don't know or care to know then your problem is worse than others think.

For all I know that contract has an expiration date or whatever and Arum is right. However he has talked a great game in the press and then been shown the sheet end of the stick in court before which I mentioned earlier in the thread. So its logical to acknowledge that the Finkel Wilder approach is rooted in a potential legal strategy.

What's funny is you claim to be speaking facts but when given direct quotes you ignore them for the sake of your sad narrative that somehow you're in a debate against a fan of a fighter you don't like. Childish measure.

We will see how this plays out and if you're proven to be dead wrong about this I hope you have enough testicular fortitude to acknowledge such. So we are clear, I'm not declaring to know what is happening nor predicting what will happen. You are.

[Silver Spear]

"I am sure, I am absolutely sure, not knowing, but I think Shelly Finkel has never read the contract."

Typical Bob Arum statement! Absolutely sure, not knowing! Well, you better read it yourself Bob, and know, before you're in court...again!

I think he meant that Finkel is Einhorn was the one that was "not knowing" about the contract and had not read it.

I doubt he was saying that he himself does not know when he clearly just said he is absolutely sure.

[Silver Spear]

You’ve hit the nail on the head. I had a feeling that Arum was could be speaking facts this time around, and Finkel’s weak response fully confirmed it. Since when did a contract expiration date become a matter of opinion.

The way Wilder’s team have been deliberately vague and opaque in this scenario makes me suspect even more that they’re the true reason behind Wilder not making even one unification attempt.

I agree. If there is anyone in the world that cares about what you say and how you say it, it is a lawyer. They would pounce at any chance at getting their aha moment just because someone worded something incorrectly. The fact that Finkel is using broad terms and opinions instead of fact is very telling coming from a lawyer.