Lopez v Loma - The Mechanics of the Win

[soul_survivor]

The idiots are out in force in this forum again, claiming Loma was overrated, he was old, scorecards too wide...yada yada yada.

The reality is, he was smarter and had a better game plan. Let me tell you how:

- Lopez came out in round 1, wide base, feet planted and lead left hand peppering Lomachenko. His jab to take away the opponents jab.

- Lopez threw two types of right hands: one was the right hand lead and that is often the best punch against a southpaw, the second was the lopping hard right hand. The first time it hit Loma in round 2, Loma staggered and was too scared to exchange for the next 4 rounds.

- Loma's gameplan, if this is true, was absurd: to take Lopez into rounds 8-12 and then try and stop him, I guess hoping that Lopez would have burned himself out. That did not happen. Loma turned it on in round 8 and then really upped it in round 9, 10 and 11 but it wasn't enough.

- Why wasn't it enough? Because Lopez bit down and fought like a bull in round 12 and looked to be the one who would KO Loma, rather than it being the other way around.

Lopez won because he out boxed and then out punched an either arrogant or ****** Lomachenko tonight.

I personally do not think there will be a rematch.

[R-Hand Southpaw]

The idiots are out in force in this forum again, claiming Loma was overrated, he was old, scorecards too wide...yada yada yada.

The reality is, he was smarter and had a better game plan. Let me tell you how:

- Lopez came out in round 1, wide base, feet planted and lead left hand peppering Lomachenko. His jab to take away the opponents jab.

- Lopez threw two types of right hands: one was the right hand lead and that is often the best punch against a southpaw, the second was the lopping hard right hand. The first time it hit Loma in round 2, Loma staggered and was too scared to exchange for the next 4 rounds.

- Loma's gameplan, if this is true, was absurd: to take Lopez into rounds 8-12 and then try and stop him, I guess hoping that Lopez would have burned himself out. That did not happen. Loma turned it on in round 8 and then really upped it in round 9, 10 and 11 but it wasn't enough.

- Why wasn't it enough? Because Lopez bit down and fought like a bull in round 12 and looked to be the one who would KO Loma, rather than it being the other way around.

Lopez won because he out boxed and then out punched an either arrogant or ****** Lomachenko tonight.

I personally do not think there will be a rematch.

Only about half of what you're saying is true.

Every Loma fan I've seen here has given Teofimo his due including myself

Its people like you who are calling Lomachenko overrated. Take a look at all the threads started on that topic and the guess who starts them? Let me tell you, it's the guys who don't like Lomachenko. Not his fans.

You think im wrong? Feel free to prove me wrong.

And while Lopez deserved to win lets not like only your reality is the only one.

ESPN was incredibly biased toward Lopez on their broadcast last night and the score cards reflected that.

I scored the fight 6-6 in real time which is within the realm of things accepted.

Lopez used a lot of body work as well in the first several rounds to win rounds but he legitimately was timed, staggered, and hit at will as the fight went on.

I also didn't understand the game plan because the broadcast team asked what was going on in Lomachenkos corner and they said Anatoly said to be patient and this was already near halfway.

Points in boxing is too dangerous. They should have just ended the fight because Lomachenko as soon as Loma hit the gas Lopez became a punching bag.

And that's an objective criticism. The rounds he lost he lost wider than the rounds he won. He will need to work on that defense and rely less on his size because he goes up in weight he can't leave himself exposed like that to heavier bigger punchers.

[Dr Rumack]

For a guy who spends half his camp doing numbers exercises you would think he'd have spotted the problem with handing your opponent the opening 6 rounds.

Seriously though I wouldn't knock Loma for losing, Lopez was excellent. But the greats Loma is compared to wouldn't have let 6 rounds slip by without trying to change the pattern of the fight. For me at least it was frustrating that he did so little to disrupt Lopez in the first half of the fight. Especially when he started to have success almost as soon as he started to take some real risks.

[R-Hand Southpaw]

For a guy who spends half his camp doing numbers exercises you would think he'd have spotted the problem with handing your opponent the opening 6 rounds.

Seriously though I wouldn't knock Loma for losing, Lopez was excellent. But the greats Loma is compared to wouldn't have let 6 rounds slip by without trying to change the pattern of the fight. For me at least it was frustrating that he did so little to disrupt Lopez in the first half of the fight. Especially when he started to have success almost as soon as he started to take some real risks.

It was frustrating to watch. Even Loma knows he didnt leave it all out there.

[soul_survivor]

Only about half of what you're saying is true.

Every Loma fan I've seen here has given Teofimo his due including myself

Its people like you who are calling Lomachenko overrated. Take a look at all the threads started on that topic and the guess who starts them? Let me tell you, it's the guys who don't like Lomachenko. Not his fans.

You think im wrong? Feel free to prove me wrong.

And while Lopez deserved to win lets not like only your reality is the only one.

ESPN was incredibly biased toward Lopez on their broadcast last night and the score cards reflected that.

I scored the fight 6-6 in real time which is within the realm of things accepted.

Lopez used a lot of body work as well in the first several rounds to win rounds but he legitimately was timed, staggered, and hit at will as the fight went on.

I also didn't understand the game plan because the broadcast team asked what was going on in Lomachenkos corner and they said Anatoly said to be patient and this was already near halfway.

Points in boxing is too dangerous. They should have just ended the fight because Lomachenko as soon as Loma hit the gas Lopez became a punching bag.

And that's an objective criticism. The rounds he lost he lost wider than the rounds he won. He will need to work on that defense and rely less on his size because he goes up in weight he can't leave himself exposed like that to heavier bigger punchers.

Can you quote where I said Loma is overrated? I'm saying the opposite, I'm saying give Lopez props for beating the best, prime lightweight on the planet.

Now I had to stop reading when you said the fight could be 6-6...first off, I don't care about ESPN. I watched the fight with Ukrainian commentary on an ... not so legit stream and heard no English. Second, how have you given Lomachenko 6 rounds?

[soul_survivor]

For a guy who spends half his camp doing numbers exercises you would think he'd have spotted the problem with handing your opponent the opening 6 rounds.

Seriously though I wouldn't knock Loma for losing, Lopez was excellent. But the greats Loma is compared to wouldn't have let 6 rounds slip by without trying to change the pattern of the fight. For me at least it was frustrating that he did so little to disrupt Lopez in the first half of the fight. Especially when he started to have success almost as soon as he started to take some real risks.

Yeah, it was shocking that Loma didn't start on the front foot earlier when he realised Lopez was taking away his jab and controlling range. Even in the 7th when he had success by attacking, he backed off and then backed off again in the 9th (I think it was). Finally in the 12th he was out punched and out worked by Lopez. So as much as Loma could have done better, I think he realised he wasn't going to out power and strength Lopez.

[Rick Taylor]

For a guy who spends half his camp doing numbers exercises you would think he'd have spotted the problem with handing your opponent the opening 6 rounds.

Seriously though I wouldn't knock Loma for losing, Lopez was excellent. But the greats Loma is compared to wouldn't have let 6 rounds slip by without trying to change the pattern of the fight. For me at least it was frustrating that he did so little to disrupt Lopez in the first half of the fight. Especially when he started to have success almost as soon as he started to take some real risks.

lomo is just a journeyman now.
he spoils and tries to not take damage.

14-2 😝

[Rick Taylor]

It was frustrating to watch. Even Loma knows he didnt leave it all out there.

lomo was to scared

[Piper the Great]

Loma thought a 23yo would gas. That was a horrible fight strategy imo

[soul_survivor]

Loma thought a 23yo would gas. That was a horrible fight strategy imo

Could it really be the strategy? I don't think any fighter or team, certainly not a person as savvy as Loma in boxing, would wait until round 7 and easily giving away at least 5 of the first 6 rounds. That is nonsense.

I do believe the strategy was to take Lopez deep but to start trying to get Lopez around round 4 or 5, not 7 or 8. It's just that Lopez took away Lomas jab and range and it took forever for Loma to adjust.