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  • ben41193
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    #1

    who would win?

    Okay the muhammad ali from the liston ight vs the muhammad ali o the foreman fight. Basiclly dancing or the ropeadope? Im leaning twords the ali from the liston fight,
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    #2
    the Liston Ali.


    Here's the main reason why Ali is the Greatest. When he was young he was invincible but so is Mike Tyson, Lennox et al but ali did it againts a very very tough opposition.

    But the main difference is ALI's performance when he was older. he kayoed a young foreman and beat a tyson like puncher in Ernie Shavers.

    Just imagine FOreman and Liston are 73-1 when ALI ( Young and Old) totally destroyed them. thats 2 version of Ali. i dont think any fighter has accomplished anything close to that.

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      #3
      Originally posted by miron_lang
      the Liston Ali.


      Here's the main reason why Ali is the Greatest. When he was young he was invincible but so is Mike Tyson, Lennox et al but ali did it againts a very very tough opposition.

      But the main difference is ALI's performance when he was older. he kayoed a young foreman and beat a tyson like puncher in Ernie Shavers.

      Just imagine FOreman and Liston are 73-1 when ALI ( Young and Old) totally destroyed them. thats 2 version of Ali. i dont think any fighter has accomplished anything close to that.

      Based on what fight or fights leads you to the conclusion that he was "invinciable" in his early mid 20's?
      Last edited by The Troll; 08-17-2006, 01:02 AM.

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        #4
        Originally posted by McKay
        Based on what fight or fights leads you to the conclusion that he was "invinciable" in his early mid 20's?
        He was undefeated up to 29 yrs OLD. and the loss to Frazier was not without valid reason that ali doest have control of. and that fight was very clse ( fight of the year )

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          #5
          Originally posted by miron_lang
          He was undefeated up to 29 yrs OLD. and the loss to Frazier was not without valid reason that ali doest have control of. and that fight was very clse ( fight of the year )
          Alot of guys you've never heard of are undefeated up to 29 years old.

          Secondly Frazier Ali was not a close fight, it was a good fight, Ali put on a good show, he landed some good shots, he was extremely game, more game in my opinion than he had ever been to that point in his career. Ultimately however it was the worst beatdown he ever suffered as a professonal fighter.

          I give respect to Ali in that fight for taking his beat down like a man and also for lasting until the final bell. I respect Ali more in that fight than any other.

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            #6
            Originally posted by McKay
            Alot of guys you've never heard of are undefeated up to 29 years old.

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            If you can name me 5 fighters that we're undefeated up to 29 yrs. old I'll believe every claim you make and threat them as facts.



            Originally posted by McKay

            Secondly Frazier Ali was not a close fight
            Not close? Its fight of the year

            and 2 of the judges had it 8 rounds to 6 , 9 rounds to 6, thats close IMO dont you think? if not why?

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              #7
              Originally posted by miron_lang
              If you can name me 5 fighters that we're undefeated up to 29 yrs. old I'll believe every claim you make and threat them as facts.





              Not close? Its fight of the year

              and 2 of the judges had it 8 rounds to 6 , 9 rounds to 6, thats close IMO dont you think? if not why?
              Your wrong on the scoring

              I could could easily go to boxrec and find a gigabyte worth of fighters with seemling good or undefeated records that nobody has ever heard of if I were interested to waste my time.

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                #8
                Originally posted by McKay
                Your wrong on the scoring

                I could could easily go to boxrec and find a gigabyte worth of fighters with seemling good or undefeated records that nobody has ever heard of if I were interested to waste my time.
                HAHAHAHAAHAH ok mckay.

                have a good day.

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                  #9
                  Your arguing with me now just for the sake of it. Enjoying yourself?

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by McKay
                    Your arguing with me now just for the sake of it. Enjoying yourself?

                    No bro. i'll just drop it ok. have a nice day.

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