Comments Thread For: Arum: Ali Was Derided Early On Because He Talked So Much, Teofimo Cut From Same Cloth

[BIGPOPPAPUMP]

Bob Arum sees the varying reactions to the level of confidence exuded by Teofimo Lopez and can't help but flash back to his most famous client. Brooklyn's Lopez has been outspoken throughout his young pro career, perhaps never more than in the buildup to his upcoming World lightweight championship clash with Ukraine's Vasiliy Lomachenko (14-1, 10KOs). The two collide this Saturday live on ESPN from The Bubble at MGM Grand in Las Vegas, with Lopez doing most of the heavy lifting between the two when it comes to promoting the event.
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[Combat Talk Radio]

False equivalency fallacy, Bob.

Cassius Clay NEVER said he'd refuse to fight tall fighters.

Cassius Clay didn't cry in the car. Not even when the government tried to force him to fight in Korea and sent him to jail over it.

So

[Verus]

There are a million differences between Ali and Teofimo. When Ali talked he put on a show full of poetry, zany antics, wit, and charm. It was a performance that even his most ardent haters enjoyed. When Teofimo talks, he gives the impression he is a classless, dim-witted thug. Ali made people laugh with his clowning around and his antics. Teofimo turns people off.

[Bronx2245]

Muhammad Ali Credited His Swagger to Wrestling Hall of Famer Gorgeous George

Muhammad Ali may be the greatest boxer of all-time. He may also be the greatest talker of all-time. Ali, formerly known as Cassius Clay, was known for his swagger and his trash talk, along with his tremendous boxing skills. If not for a former pro wrestler named Gorgeous George, Ali may have done his boxing without all the talking...

Muhammad Ali could always back up the talk that usually preceded his fights. He was a true showman and credited that part of his personality to Gorgeous George. Ali said it all began when Ali, known as Cassius Clay at the time, met Gorgeous George at a Las Vegas radio station before one of George’s wrestling matches. Clay was 19 and George was 46.

George said if he was to lose against Classy Freddie Blassie, “I’ll crawl across the ring and cut my hair off! But that’s not gonna happen because I’m the greatest wrestler in the world,” he said, according to Sports Illustrated. Ali recalled being at the match and said, “I saw 15,000 people comin’ to see this man get beat. And his talking did it. I said, ‘This is a gooood idea!'”

In the locker room afterward, George told Clay, “A lot of people will pay to see someone shut your mouth. So keep on bragging, keep on sassing and always be outrageous.”

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[BadMedicin3]

Muhammad Ali was charismatic and witty so he didn't come off as annoying though

[Fidel456]

Bob Arum sees the varying reactions to the level of confidence exuded by Teofimo Lopez and can't help but flash back to his most famous client. Brooklyn's Lopez has been outspoken throughout his young pro career, perhaps never more than in the buildup to his upcoming World lightweight championship clash with Ukraine's Vasiliy Lomachenko (14-1, 10KOs). The two collide this Saturday live on ESPN from The Bubble at MGM Grand in Las Vegas, with Lopez doing most of the heavy lifting between the two when it comes to promoting the event.
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Your first mistake was comparing Ali to someone named teófimo lopez

[BirdSong]

next time someone is getting on my nerves and won't shutup, i will tell them to stop being so loquacious, thanks bob

[nacho daddy]

There are a million differences between Ali and Teofimo. When Ali talked he put on a show full of poetry, zany antics, wit, and charm. It was a performance that even his most ardent haters enjoyed. When Teofimo talks, he gives the impression he is a classless, dim-witted thug. Ali made people laugh with his clowning around and his antics. Teofimo turns people off.

Ali was a master at what you described and 5000 times smarter then lopez. also Ali proved it in a ring with always fighting the best fighters in the world

[ArturoBalboa]

If Ali had done the Fortnite dance he would have rightly been despised.

[theface07]

There are a million differences between Ali and Teofimo. When Ali talked he put on a show full of poetry, zany antics, wit, and charm. It was a performance that even his most ardent haters enjoyed. When Teofimo talks, he gives the impression he is a classless, dim-witted thug. Ali made people laugh with his clowning around and his antics. Teofimo turns people off.

I agee with you about Ali compared to Lopez trash talk. Ali was well spoken, articulate, poetic and funny. The thing I disagee with though is that you say Ali didn't turn people off. I don't know if you're aware or not but when Ali hit the pro scene, most people despised his antics, bravado and trash talk. Of course it was the bulk of the white status quo who were jealous and angry that a confident black man was getting air time but nonetheless, he was mostly treated with scorn in the 60's. It wasn't until the 70's that he gained more universal acceptence and appreciation. Even a lot of black people in the 60's didn't like him. They thought he was setting them back as a race by angering the white controlling class. It's pathetic to think about but that's the way it was.
There are still a lot of racists out there nowadays who still don't like seeing a confident black man, they just get called on it if they make comments confirming their racism.