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    #51
    Originally posted by R-Hand Southpaw
    Let's talk boxing unlike these other people.

    What Nakatani did that neutralized Teofimo so was was keep a long jab in his face where he couldn't reach with looping hooks and when he leaped in, again with a leaping hook timed him with a check hook.

    Lopez was frustrated he couldn't land and ended up throwing and missing a lot of shots.

    All Lomachenko needs to do is keep Lopez busy and thinking about the shots coming in.

    Lopez doesn't set up his punches and only looks to do one thing or another. If he's on offense he'll come at you with explosive shots. If he's on defense he'll literally sit and wait to counter shots. I think watching him that he only looks to counter on particular shot everytime he does this.

    For example. He'll face you with a Philly shell stance and beg you to throw a jab or a cross that he will pull counter.

    If you dont throw anything hell will literally just stand and stare at you. Is Loma just gonna sit there and stare? Nope.

    Its laughable when people say Lomachenko has no power when his past opponents have said the opposite. Lomachenko is the biggest puncher Lopez has faced to date and Lomachenko always has a sustained body attack.
    The bold is interesting. I think that's exactly what Loma will do. With some extra taunting and hip movements. Which will just anger Lopez and make him fall into a trap.

    Remember this?

    [img]https://i.postimg.cc/R0NcTPmR/Lom-*****-2.gif[/img]

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    • R-Hand Southpaw
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      #52
      Originally posted by revelated
      The bold is interesting. I think that's exactly what Loma will do. With some extra taunting and hip movements. Which will just anger Lopez and make him fall into a trap.

      Remember this?

      [img]https://i.postimg.cc/R0NcTPmR/Lom-*****-2.gif[/img]
      I've seen every single one of Lomachenkos fights and have seen him adapt his style for the pros and for the weight division he fights in.

      I've also watched 5 of Teofimos last fights and wasn't impressed.

      Watch Lopez vs Nakatani and watch how many times Lopez and Nakatani just stand and stare at each other. I was thinking that maybe at that point he was running low on gas but I honestly think he's trying to counter.


      He does the exact same thing when he drags his lead arm low. Very reminiscent of RJJ by no means near the power or accuracy of the shot.

      Plus he loves to fall in love with his favorite shots. He will literally throw the same thing over and over and over and pray that it lands.

      His favorite shots?

      Leaping left hook
      Crouching rear uppercut followed by lead hook
      Over hand right

      His biggest problem is that he rarely sets up his shots too. He'll throw strong shot after strong shot praying that one of them hurts his opponents and so far at 135 a lot of the guys he has faced has been severely undersized.

      Plus. Lopez doesn't bring size that Lomachenko hasnt seen before. Linares, Pedraza, and Campbell are all bigger guys.

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        #53
        Originally posted by Boxing-1013
        If you had Loma-Campbell 12-0, I mean I don't see it. It's crazy. If you've watched boxing for 50 years you should know what a close fight looks like. It was a tight competitive fight. Giving Campbell 6 rounds seems generous but he definitely won some rounds and was in the fight.



        Sometimes judges get it right, sometimes they are corrupt and don't get it right. We all know this.
        Well, you deserve a reply. VL out-landed C 145-73 in last 6 rds. and over all 211-131. Campbell did much better in the first half, say, the first 3 rounds, but, although competitive, holding his own better, -meaning that you couldn't stick out your chin for him, was losing. . The last half was all Lomachenko with enough flashes from Campbell to show he was still dangerous. He fought as well as he was "allowed to" when L had him figured out.. That was the story.

        But he really lost as I said.

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          #54
          Originally posted by edgarg
          Well, you deserve a reply. VL out-landed C 145-73 in last 6 rds. and over all 211-131. Campbell did much better in the first half, say, the first 3 rounds, but, although competitive, holding his own better, -meaning that you couldn't stick out your chin for him, was losing. . The last half was all Lomachenko with enough flashes from Campbell to show he was still dangerous. He fought as well as he was "allowed to" when L had him figured out.. That was the story.

          But he really lost as I said.
          Sometimes punch stats are accurate imo. Sometimes not. I bet punch thrown stats are very similar for many of those rounds. In fact I just looked it up and they were. Basically corresponding to what I saw - that the first 6 rounds were close, probably 3-3. The next 6 were probably at least 4-2 Loma.

          It's easy for one guy counting punches to start 'missing' what lands. But when punches thrown are very even, generally it is a very even fight.

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            #55
            Originally posted by Boxing-1013
            Sometimes punch stats are accurate imo. Sometimes not. I bet punch thrown stats are very similar for many of those rounds. In fact I just looked it up and they were. Basically corresponding to what I saw - that the first 6 rounds were close, probably 3-3. The next 6 were probably at least 4-2 Loma.

            It's easy for one guy counting punches to start 'missing' what lands. But when punches thrown are very even, generally it is a very even fight.
            Well you're right in a way. Compubox is sometimes hazardous. They have great experience and I'm sure don't miss much. They were hopeless for the first years. One important thing they can't do is to gauge the quality of strength of the punch. So in the first 6 rds it's most likely that the score was 4-2 or 5-1 for Lomachenko. I think Campbell won only 1 rd in the last 6.

            Of course depending on what the judges saw.

            The worst judge of punches I ever saw was Jim Lampley, who would always credit the "house" fighter with a load of near misses. And the worst picker of the potential winner was-no question- Teddy Atlas. You could bet money on the guy he said would lose. Manny Steward was not much good at choosing a winner in his pre-fight talk either, but better than Atlas.

            Col Bob, in his heyday was a first class blow-by-blow commentator, and a whiz at knowing who was winning. He deteriorated a bit as he got older, but his enthusiatstic voice, win or lose was the best-for me. He was crazy about boxing. I remember that he got a heart attack the day before he was to work on the Tyson-Holyfield return and was diagnosed as needing a quadruple heart bypass. He checked himself out of the hospital, got in a seat close to ringside, with a doctor sitting behind him, checking his blood pressure cuff, and having hypo injections ready in case he passed out etc. I remember seeing a photo of it, or a scan by the TV lens

            Crazy guy. Had about 20 heart attacks and still alive and kicking, still broadcasting all over the world must be about 75 years old.. a doctor's complete practice on the hoof.

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              #56
              Originally posted by revelated
              Because none of them believe it. They don't.

              Cats are SO emotional over why they got blocked that they don't see the forest for the trees here. It doesn't matter what happened that got people blocked months ago. There's no block now. Talk about facts on why people think Lopez wins this. And nobody has any solid facts that I haven't already destroyed.

              Like I said - people can only point "Commey doe!" - ONE fight and you're convinced this mental case beats a P4P fighter? Like Uncle Roger said, "anybody can have a win".

              My statement is simple. This is NOT a 50/50 fight, it's a mismatch. Lopez is overrated and people are hating on Loma. I would have thought that seeing him box circles around Rigondeaux would have taught people by now, but there's always an excuse.

              The only thing Lopez does better than Lomachenko is speak....in English. Levels.

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                #57
                Originally posted by R-Hand Southpaw
                I've seen every single one of Lomachenkos fights and have seen him adapt his style for the pros and for the weight division he fights in.

                I've also watched 5 of Teofimos last fights and wasn't impressed.

                Watch Lopez vs Nakatani and watch how many times Lopez and Nakatani just stand and stare at each other. I was thinking that maybe at that point he was running low on gas but I honestly think he's trying to counter.


                He does the exact same thing when he drags his lead arm low. Very reminiscent of RJJ by no means near the power or accuracy of the shot.

                Plus he loves to fall in love with his favorite shots. He will literally throw the same thing over and over and over and pray that it lands.

                His favorite shots?

                Leaping left hook
                Crouching rear uppercut followed by lead hook
                Over hand right

                His biggest problem is that he rarely sets up his shots too. He'll throw strong shot after strong shot praying that one of them hurts his opponents and so far at 135 a lot of the guys he has faced has been severely undersized.

                Plus. Lopez doesn't bring size that Lomachenko hasnt seen before. Linares, Pedraza, and Campbell are all bigger guys.
                Originally posted by revelated
                Even that blistering idiot Tyistall.

                This is how confident I am that Teofimo - called "Teofemale" by someone on here - cannot win this fight that his mouth backed him into.

                I've shared with you the SVT that Loma is using to train.

                Loma's record is on display.

                I've shared the video about Lopez crying.

                You heard him after Nagatani pumped a right hand into his face "no more tall fighters".

                You heard him crying over his dad.

                The guy is a mental case. He has too much on his mind to focus on this fight. His wife is not accepted, he got damn near exposed against Nagatani, he's been crying off on multiple occasions, he's got issues with his dad - who is working his corner.

                I don't know what more I can do to convince you people that this is a mismatch. MENTAL MATTERS!

                So let's talk about it.

                Ignore your 'eye test'. I don't want to hear it.

                What FACTUAL information tells you that Teofimo Lopez won't quit or get absolutely embarrassed against Lomachenko?

                Go. You're not ignored/blocked/muted. I want facts.
                Hahahahahah

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                  #58
                  lopez lost. it was a competitive but clear win for loma.

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                    #59
                    hahaha. keep crying mfers

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by Divine Hammer
                      lopez lost. it was a competitive but clear win for loma.
                      Just wow.....

                      But the commentators with Teo beating the ''best man in the world''

                      Also pure rubbish

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