Boxers who are arguably unbeaten?

**Pac=Duran** · 10-08-2020, 06:48 AM

Originally posted by mlac

IMO:

Liam Williams - was clearly beating Smith until he got headbutted deliberately by Smith who was bizarrely given the TKO win. Williams won the 2nd fight too imo.

Gennady Golovkin - has been in several close fights with Jacobs, Derev & the 2nd Canelo fight but i had him winning the first two by 7-5 & the 2nd canelo fight is so close a 7-5 for either man or a rare case of a draw being perfect.

Jose Zepeda - Dislocated his shoulder agaisnt Turbo Tel, should of been a NC & i had him beating Ramirez 7-5

any others?

Lara maybe? I didnt catch his last loss though, was it close?

Shawn Porter? Kelly Brook loss is a hard sell though.

Keith Thurman potentially

**jjscruff** · 10-08-2020, 06:48 AM

fury. lost to mcdermott and had that fight called off for the bad cut

**mlac** · 10-08-2020, 06:58 AM

Originally posted by Pac=Duran

Lara maybe? I didnt catch his last loss though, was it close?

Shawn Porter? Kelly Brook loss is a hard sell though.

Keith Thurman potentially

Porter probobly has the best case out of those guys, (never saw the Ugas fight) but yea Brook clearly beat him.

You never saw the Hurd Lara fight? really? was an amazing fight, Hurd clearly won tho, i also thought Lara lost to Castano..

**Get em up** · 10-08-2020, 07:01 AM

Originally posted by mlac

Porter probobly has the best case out of those guys, (never saw the Ugas fight) but yea Brook clearly beat him.

You never saw the Hurd Lara fight? really? was an amazing fight, Hurd clearly won tho, i also thought Lara lost to Castano..

I think the Porter/Ugas fight could've went to Ugas honestly and I'm a big fan of Porter. Any of his losses couldve been close wins IMO but the Ugas fight he probably shouldve lost.

**Pac=Duran** · 10-08-2020, 07:07 AM

Originally posted by mlac

Porter probobly has the best case out of those guys, (never saw the Ugas fight) but yea Brook clearly beat him.

You never saw the Hurd Lara fight? really? was an amazing fight, Hurd clearly won tho, i also thought Lara lost to Castano..

Nah still haven't watched the Lara Hurd fight.

I would say Thurman has a better shout than Porter. Porter def list vs Brook but its arguable Keith best manny (not really, but closer)

**Mammoth** · 10-08-2020, 07:15 AM

Originally posted by mlac

IMO:

Liam Williams - was clearly beating Smith until he got headbutted deliberately by Smith who was bizarrely given the TKO win. Williams won the 2nd fight too imo.

Definitely Liam Williams. I think he could give Andrade some problems and the comments section would be littered with comments about how Beefy beat him from the guys who only really have boxrec knowledge.

**RJJ-94-02=GOAT** · 10-08-2020, 07:18 AM

Originally posted by mlac

IMO:

Liam Williams - was clearly beating Smith until he got headbutted deliberately by Smith who was bizarrely given the TKO win. Williams won the 2nd fight too imo.

Gennady Golovkin - has been in several close fights with Jacobs, Derev & the 2nd Canelo fight but i had him winning the first two by 7-5 & the 2nd canelo fight is so close a 7-5 for either man or a rare case of a draw being perfect.

Jose Zepeda - Dislocated his shoulder agaisnt Turbo Tel, should of been a NC & i had him beating Ramirez 7-5

any others?

I thought Smith won the second fight tbh bro, the first fight should have been a TD win for Williams.

I had GGG beating Canelo twice.

Zepeda is a good shout, I was at that Flanagan fight and in hindsight you�d definitely favour Zepeda to win that one. I also had his fight with Ramirez 114-114.

Not necessarily undefeated but I think both Ryder and Ugas should have a few less in the loss column.

**Mammoth** · 10-08-2020, 07:19 AM

Jermell Charlo had that bogus loss to Harrison

**Mammoth** · 10-08-2020, 07:22 AM

I could see GGG's L being a W and his draw for sure was a win. The Jacobs and Derevyanchenko fights could both be L's.

Boxers who are arguably unbeaten?