Comments Thread For: Tyson Fury Vows To Fight in 2020 - Against Wilder or Someone Else

[Tyistall]

Well you refer to Fury and drugs when I mention hes wins over Wlad or Wilder. I'm not aware he's failed tests for these fights but you bring the subject up everytime they're mentioned.So if it negates Furys career why were you pushing for him to fight Whyte, because the failed tests should negate he's career also. So please elaborate.

I'm ok with them bashing Whyte about steroids. They should. He's earned that much criticism. But so has Fury. And yet none of you bring it up because he's fooled you into thinking he had mental health issues instead haha. It's so obvious to me but most of you don't get it. That's why I bring it up every time you guys want to praise Nandrolone Fury. He is like Lance Armstrong and everything he has done since getting caught, should be viewed as stechtcy at best. I mean, a convicted steroids cheat all of a sudden shows up to a fight at 273 with power, when he never had power like that before, and NOBODY says or thinks anything???? Nah man, theres smoke and theres fire there

[Mindgames]

I'm ok with them bashing Whyte about steroids. They should. He's earned that much criticism. But so has Fury. And yet none of you bring it up because he's fooled you into thinking he had mental health issues instead haha. It's so obvious to me but most of you don't get it. That's why I bring it up every time you guys want to praise Nandrolone Fury. He is like Lance Armstrong and everything he has done since getting caught, should be viewed as stechtcy at best. I mean, a convicted steroids cheat all of a sudden shows up to a fight at 273 with power, when he never had power like that before, and NOBODY says or thinks anything???? Nah man, theres smoke and theres fire there

Ive never defended him for drugs, nor Miller, Canelo, Evan Fields or Roy Jones, James Toney.I think theyre all on them, coz I know small time MMA fighter who make hardly anything and they all are too. But my debate is who's the best at the weight. I migjtve agreed with you on AJ until the Ruiz fight, but to me it exposed real weaknesses that put him behind Fury. If Fury had failed a drug test for Wlad or Wilder I'd say strip him. But he didnt, and AJs got that stoppage loss. So thats how I see it.

[Tyistall]

Ive never defended him for drugs, nor Miller, Canelo, Evan Fields or Roy Jones, James Toney.I think theyre all on them, coz I know small time MMA fighter who make hardly anything and they all are too. But my debate is who's the best at the weight. I migjtve agreed with you on AJ until the Ruiz fight, but to me it exposed real weaknesses that put him behind Fury. If Fury had failed a drug test for Wlad or Wilder I'd say strip him. But he didnt, and AJs got that stoppage loss. So thats how I see it.

You guys are all basing Nandrolone Fury off the Wilder fight. He has only fought one more guy out of the top 30. So how can you possibly call him the best?

[LoadedWraps]

You guys are all basing Nandrolone Fury off the Wilder fight. He has only fought one more guy out of the top 30. So how can you possibly call him the best?

[Mindgames]

You guys are all basing Nandrolone Fury off the Wilder fight. He has only fought one more guy out of the top 30. So how can you possibly call him the best?

Its like this. Fury outboxed Wlad earlier and easier than AJ beat him. He easily beat Wilder twice for me. Easily beat Chisora. AJ got stopped badly by a much smaller man not noted as a puncher. AJs best win outside of Wlad is probably Parker, where he didn't exactly look convincing, although he well won it. In a side by side comparison, Fury looks better, better skills, longer reach, better stamina. Better jab, doesnt fall apart under punishment. There's no getting around that Ruiz loss, and AJ looked very wary in the rematch. He boxed well, as you'd expect a guy with a massive reach advantage to do. But he looked like he had no confidence in hes chin at all. I don't go by personal like or dislike. On proven, current form, Fury should beat him.

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....."someone else" it is then. My vote is for Sefer Seferi round 2, or seeing as how Arum hates overmatched opponents we can skip that one and go straight to Fury/Schwartz II - Schwartz is a big, dangerous young guy, right Arum?

[Tyistall]

Its like this. Fury outboxed Wlad earlier and easier than AJ beat him. He easily beat Wilder twice for me. Easily beat Chisora. AJ got stopped badly by a much smaller man not noted as a puncher. AJs best win outside of Wlad is probably Parker, where he didn't exactly look convincing, although he well won it. In a side by side comparison, Fury looks better, better skills, longer reach, better stamina. Better jab, doesnt fall apart under punishment. There's no getting around that Ruiz loss, and AJ looked very wary in the rematch. He boxed well, as you'd expect a guy with a massive reach advantage to do. But he looked like he had no confidence in hes chin at all. I don't go by personal like or dislike. On proven, current form, Fury should beat him.

Riiight so you are completely overlooking Fury almost losing on cuts against Wallin. Him getting floored by an average cruiserweight in Cunningham. Getting a gift decision against Mcdermott. not being waved off after Wilder floored him, which most refs would have stopped he fight. The Klitschko vs Fury fight was an eyesore and Fury ran from the rematch. The Klitschko vs AJ fight, was the fight of the year and AJ won by KO, not by a boring decision. Yes AJ lost to Ruiz but he also came back and pitched a shutout against him. Also, how is the Fury/Klitschko a masterclass, and the AJ/Ruiz II fight "AJ fighting wary'? The punch stats for the third round of the fury/Klitschko fight were 2 to 1. Fury landed 2 punches for the entire round hahahaha. That is beyond pathetic. Cunningham was not known as a puncher and he wasn't even a real heavyweight, nut he sure put Fury on his ass didn't he? All this, plus the steroids tell me that Fury is an overrated con man who will have a fall just like Wilder has. And half this forum will go away just like Wilder fans have.

[Tyistall]

You're going to need therapy after Fury gets KOed hahahahah

[Marchegiano]

Poor, sad, Joshua die-hards.

It's Fury's time. Joshua hasn't done much of **** recently. Fury whooped Wilder dominantly. Wasn't like there was a fight there, Fury just whooped his ass. Even in the Ruiz fight Joshua won it wasn't nearly as dominant.

Yes we do forget everything else. Those are their last fights, those are the fights that are judged most, Fury's just looks better.

[Mindgames]

Riiight so you are completely overlooking Fury almost losing on cuts against Wallin. Him getting floored by an average cruiserweight in Cunningham. Getting a gift decision against Mcdermott. not being waved off after Wilder floored him, which most refs would have stopped he fight. The Klitschko vs Fury fight was an eyesore and Fury ran from the rematch. The Klitschko vs AJ fight, was the fight of the year and AJ won by KO, not by a boring decision. Yes AJ lost to Ruiz but he also came back and pitched a shutout against him. Also, how is the Fury/Klitschko a masterclass, and the AJ/Ruiz II fight "AJ fighting wary'? The punch stats for the third round of the fury/Klitschko fight were 2 to 1. Fury landed 2 punches for the entire round hahahaha. That is beyond pathetic. Cunningham was not known as a puncher and he wasn't even a real heavyweight, nut he sure put Fury on his ass didn't he? All this, plus the steroids tell me that Fury is an overrated con man who will have a fall just like Wilder has. And half this forum will go away just like Wilder fans have.

I didnt say proven form but obviously that means current form. The Mcdermott fight is hardly relevant, it was a decade ago, and Fury was gasping for oxygen because he was in horrible shape. Sure he suffered a knockdown against Cunningham, but he's chin didn't let him down against much bigger punchers like Wlad and Wilder because he had hes defence together. There are alot of cases when guys are knocked down against lesser opposition but go on to do well against punchers. Fury gets up when floored, but we saw AJ gassed and practically quit against Ruiz. As for Wallin, it's not easy to fight through a severe cut, and we dont know potential how good he actually might turn out to be. AJ was wobbled against a one armed Whyte, nearly finished by Wlad, and was finished BY Ruiz in a devastating loss. That's not the same thing as suffering flash knockdowns years ago. Like him or hate him, everyone can see Fury has boxing skills, and the heart to come back from damage. There's nothing to suggest AJ can outbox him, no reason to think AJ can knock him out with one shot, nothing to suggest AJ can wear him down. And to me, your not taking into account the dent that loss has put in AJs confidence. He's changed he's style to protect he's chin. He's vulnerable, and he's not a great boxer anyway. Against a taller mobile guy with better stamina he's up against it.