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  • #21
    If it does 100k, they should be saying THank You to the idiots who paid Mayweather money for two nobodies.

    I am glad they stepped up in their competition, but this should have been free on Showtime. And people saying DAZN is not worth $100 per year. lol.

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    • #22
      They're complete unknowns in the casual world. Their social media following is nonexistent. The only thing that PPV had going for it is that it was the first big boxing event of 2020 - they could have gotten extra buys from that. Despite that, I doubt they reached 200k

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      • #23
        I hope they did good numbers solid card.

        Teo/Loma

        Then Leo\Tank ppv

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        • #24
          Man never seen some many supposedly boxing fans hate boxing soo much???

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          • #25
            Originally posted by Squ□redCircle34 View Post
            150K buys and that’s being nice
            if it is something over 100K it should be considered a success

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            • #26
              Idk man. I didn't stream this one and I even streamed Hopkins-Dawson I. That one did 40K. This one will be lucky to see 25K.

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              • #27
                Originally posted by -Kev- View Post
                They have a combined 100k followers on twitter. 50k each.

                Crawford, who has 185k followers, can't draw ***** to flies for his PPV's. He sold 50k vs Postol, and 150k vs Amir Khan.

                In fact, Bob Arum said has said he actually LOSSES money on Crawford PPV's.

                Terence Crawford and Amir Khan are much bigger names and have a larger following than the Charlo's and anyone on that card put together. Their PPV fight sold 150k.

                You are saying this Charlo PPV sold 300-350k. Double what other fighters with bigger following than them did.

                The Charlo's are about as unknown as you can get. They have 50,000 twitter followers each. They generate zero buzz on google. Nobody talks about them outside of boxingscene.com.

                Am I a Charlo hater? No, just saying they need to get their resume up. The kings of PPV of yesterday (Mayweather/Pacquiao) fight top rated fighters, dangerous fighters, consistently, before they become big PPV stars and demand you pay $75-$100 to watch them. The Charlos haven't done that. Gervonta Davis hasn't done that. Promoters don't do this anymore. Mainly because fighters want too much money and the way only to try to pay them this money is with PPV money. They want PPV money but they do PPV numbers. Nobody wants to put in the work anymore.

                Floyd Mayweather Jr got on his first PPV headline vs Arturo Gatti, 10 years into his career and 3 weight classes in. With Lineal and Ring titles to his name and a slew of top 1-10 wins, top 10 P4P recognition, and having been ranked as the best at 130 and 135 prior to climbing to 140 to dethrone The Ring's #1 ranked and WBC champion there.

                Now fighters want their very first step up fight to be a big PPV fight where they make millions of dollars. Many boxing fans don't like Mayweather but he hustled his way to the top with top wins and accomplishments before he was demanding PPV money.
                the thread should have ended after this post, green incoming

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by HitmanTommy View Post
                  It's not rocket science.......

                  Very loud, very confident and very outspoken black brothers that refuse to be held down by the system.

                  People don't want to mention race and act like it doesn't exist in the world of boxing, but it does. Lots of people no doubt tuned in to see Sergiy Derevyanchenko (the good guy) teach one of the brothers a lesson in humility and respect.

                  Add all of this together and I'd say around 300k-350k.

                  Would have been a good amount more if they replaced Rosario with a white fighter.
                  By this logic, all those buys went to Adesanya and the UFC.

                  I’d be happy for them if they sold well and I hope they did. It’s good for boxing and they are fine fighters. But it’s doubtful. I think most “casual” fight fans went with UFC on this.

                  But if Floyd was pulling 400k tops (iirc) with Berto and for less cost.... yeah....

                  I would honestly be surprised at 100k.

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                  • #29
                    I am white and I like the brothers. I don't think they are all that loud and outspoken. no more so than lots of other guys. They are great to watch and get the job done just as they say they will. The reason it did not get more buys is the price was very high. Had they priced it at 50 bucks it would have done much better.

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