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  • BangEM
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    #51
    Dillian Whyte actually stopped Fury in practice and both were pros then.

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    • REDEEMER
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      #52
      Originally posted by BangEM
      Dillian Whyte actually stopped Fury in practice and both were pros then.
      I wouldn’t really go on that ,I’d go on AJ actually lighting him up as an amateur when Fury was a pro . The forum has very selective memories when it comes to Fury and AJ ,they really don’t compare so far in terms of achievements . I think AJ will stop Fury late while controlling the fight and I see a worried Fury corner telling him not to, panic but he has no answers .

      I see why they would pick Fury but the notion it’s a mismatch is bizarre behavior.
      Last edited by REDEEMER; 09-29-2020, 07:47 AM.

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      • Monty Fisto
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        #53
        Originally posted by Jkp
        AJ vs Ruiz 2, was an awful eyesore of a fight.
        A person as fat as Ruiz should never be allowed in the ring.
        A person as timid and no engaging as AJ was, should have been disqualified (shades of hughie fury).
        Thank goodness you don't run boxing.

        In boxing, two fighters get into the ring and try to punch each other. What happens in the ring determines the winner. You don't get barred for being too fat. You don't get disqualified for not being hit enough.

        AJ came into the second fight, and went in aggressively against Ruiz in the first round, cut him, but then had second thoughts about that strategy after he got caught -- and cut -- himself. He changed it up on the fly and then fought a stick and move fight. A plan B that they must always have been ready to switch to at some point if needed. Was it an exciting boxing match? Not really.

        But it did demonstrate a greater variety of tools at AJ's dispoal.

        Was it as much of an eyesore as Fury vs Klitschko? No.

        Critics of AJ on this board often moan about AJ choosing to box on his toes in an elusive manner against a fat and relatively immobile Ruiz, but the two go hand in hand. The less mobile the opponent, the more compelling the stick-and-move strategy becomes. That's just boxing smart to guarantee the win.
        Last edited by Monty Fisto; 09-29-2020, 08:05 AM.

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        • Tyistall
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          #54
          Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL
          It was a terrible fight 'It was by no means a Mayweather type master class'.

          Fury in my opinion? Also fought negatively vs Kiltschko 'He just bamboozled him, with faints and odd movement'.

          Very smart tactics, but even Peter Fury knew 'That he could not fight that way in the rematch'.

          Note: I am neutral on Joshua VS Fury, sometimes I think? Joshua could go through him like paper mache, then other times I think 'Tyson Fury could just out boxed him badly'.
          I am as convinced about Fury being a con man and a fraud, as I was concined that Wilder was/is one. Fury just hasn't been exposed yet. And part of that reason is, because he has been fighting bums like Sefari, Pianeta, Wallin and Schwarz. Had he been fighting too guys like AJ has, then at least one of them would have beaten him by now. Possibly 2 or 3 of them. Right now he is dinning out on the Wilder fight and everyone is overreacting to it and saying that Fury is all of a sudden unbeatable. And it's just not true
          Last edited by Tyistall; 09-29-2020, 09:25 AM.

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          • Boricua181
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            #55
            If you don't have a respectful argument to make then stay off the platform. Andy Ruiz dropped him 3 or 4 times in their first fight, Anthony Joshua was disoriented, and trying to buy sometime to recuperate. He virtually looked like he didn't want to go out to the center of the ring, to continue the fight. He can't take a good punch, and there's nothing he can do about that chin. He's a clean fighter, has got power, and comports himself like a true champion. I respect, and admire him for those attributes, but in my opinion he can't beat Fury, and Wilder would give him hell. Those are my thoughts on that, just like you have your own opinion.
            Last edited by Boricua181; 09-29-2020, 09:14 AM.

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            • BangEM
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              #56
              Originally posted by Boricua181
              If you don't have a respectful argument to make then stay off the platform. Andy Ruiz dropped him 3 or 4 times in their first fight, Anthony Joshua was disoriented, and trying to buy sometime to recuperate. He virtually looked like he didn't want to go out to the center of the ring, to continue the fight. He can't take a good punch, and there's nothing he can do about that chin. He's a clean fighter, has got power, and comports himself like a true champion. I respect, and admire him for those attributes, but in my opinion he can't beat Fury, and Wilder would give him hell. Those are my thoughts on that, just like you have your own opinion.
              Tell yer mum to come get me off the forum then.

              You and the other idiot are trying to start a propaganda with ***** that never happened. When did Dwelko and Dave Allen knock him out cold in sparring? He has never even sparred Dave Allen since he was in the amateurs and Dave Allen was a bum that wasn't even good enough for Team GB.

              Who cares about what Ruiz did? Lennox Lewis was knocked out cold twice and Mike Tyson was destroyed multiple times. It's heavyweight boxing - boxers lose in fights. But stop spreading falsehoods about ***** that never happened.

              Then again, you're Boricua - either Rican or Dominican - and most of you are beta gay men. So it doesn't surprise. Fu...cking helmet.

              No one gives a ***** about who you think beats who. But stop spreading lies, idiot.

              Dillian Whyte beat Fury up in sparring and AJ also battered Fury in sparring. Both aren't fallacies. They're facts!

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              • BangEM
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                #57
                Originally posted by REDEEMER
                I wouldn’t really go on that ,I’d go on AJ actually lighting him up as an amateur when Fury was a pro . The forum has very selective memories when it comes to Fury and AJ ,they really don’t compare so far in terms of achievements . I think AJ will stop Fury late while controlling the fight and I see a worried Fury corner telling him not to, panic but he has no answers .

                I see why they would pick Fury but the notion it’s a mismatch is bizarre behavior.
                No, Dillian Whyte really sparked Fury in sparring and Peter Fury did indirectly confirm it because it was during the period when he was Fury's coach. But he said sparring is sparring. And Fury already said what happened between him and Josh in sparring.

                Unlike these idiots that make up dumb stories. An amateur novice who picked up the gloves for the first time 2 yrs prior spar a 2-yr pro who was a bronze medalist at the olympics and got dropped. Oh, big deal! They have created all kinds of stories with that naming every bum they can find and claiming they sparked in sparring by them.

                He got sparked in sparring by these bums yet Povetkin, Wlad, Dillian et al who hit the hardest in division couldn't spark him despite hitting him clean multiple times. However, somehow guys who have been dropped heavily by cabbies and a guy who got his skull bashed in and his eardrum busted have great chins. This forum has the dumbest posters on the internet. LMAO.

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                • LoadedWraps
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer
                  Usyk would be a better fight for Fury than Joshua. Joshua is so predictable. Fury will be toying with him all night long and stop him lately.

                  I 100% agree ( though a disaster against Chisora would change my mind, ) but we need to get there first. I'd love to see Usyk get his hands on a belt, upping the pressure on the other champs.

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                  • Oshio
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                    #59
                    I believe Joshua can KO Fury too IF Fury use the approach he used for Wilder II.

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                    • Jkp
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by Monty Fisto
                      Thank goodness you don't run boxing.

                      In boxing, two fighters get into the ring and try to punch each other. What happens in the ring determines the winner. You don't get barred for being too fat. You don't get disqualified for not being hit enough.

                      AJ came into the second fight, and went in aggressively against Ruiz in the first round, cut him, but then had second thoughts about that strategy after he got caught -- and cut -- himself. He changed it up on the fly and then fought a stick and move fight. A plan B that they must always have been ready to switch to at some point if needed. Was it an exciting boxing match? Not really.

                      But it did demonstrate a greater variety of tools at AJ's dispoal.

                      Was it as much of an eyesore as Fury vs Klitschko? No.

                      Critics of AJ on this board often moan about AJ choosing to box on his toes in an elusive manner against a fat and relatively immobile Ruiz, but the two go hand in hand. The less mobile the opponent, the more compelling the stick-and-move strategy becomes. That's just boxing smart to guarantee the win.
                      Sticking and moving away from a short obese untrained immobile mexican blob and sticking and moving away from a big, fit Klitchko are 2 very different things.

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