So where do you think the PPV buys end up for last nights event?

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    Dinamita
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    #31
    Under 50k and I'd be shocked if it did more. This was a guaranteed flop although the fights were good.

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    • Divine Hammer
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      #32
      around 10k

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      • BangEM
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        #33
        The magic number from propaganda would be 150k but I doubt it did more than 50k buys.

        Just divide whatever number the throw out there by 2 or 3.

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        • -Kev-
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          #34
          So bad we will probably not even hear about any numbers at all. It’ll do like independent PPV type numbers.

          Guaranteed Showtime will lose money on it.

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          • KTFOKING
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            #35
            Originally posted by LoadedWraps
            Probably this.

            300k plus would be a huge success imo.
            300k is REALLY hard to do. Only Spence, Wilder, Canelo and Pacquiao are doing that range in non-mega fights. Charlo brothers are not close to the stars the fighters I just listed.

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            • Inspired
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              #36
              Originally posted by bluebeam
              Wilder vs fury 2 did 800k ppv buys. Thats damn near pacquiao last 2 ppv combined.

              That equals a draw my friend. And don't say fury sold it alone because he couldn't get a crowd to buy tickets in his 2 fights in 2019 before the wilder rematch

              You dont know the black fight fan to well. If Charlo vs canelo, ggg, benividez ever happens, we will be tuning in on ppv happily.

              Same for tank if he ever man up and fight loma, haney, ryan, russsell jr. We will buy
              Well the charlo Vs Chris eubank jr, andrade, BJS and especially ggg or canelo are all ppv worthy.

              However Wilders 800k ppv buys Vs fury were a big loss for both fox and ESPN..
              The reason it did so many is because it was a joint ventureand they spent $20m just to market the fight.
              Also yes Tyson was the bigger draw esp after his wrestling appearance.

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              • patron
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                #37
                I believe the information on PPV buys has been sealed and will require a court order to unseal!

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                • LoadedWraps
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by KTFOKING
                  300k is REALLY hard to do. Only Spence, Wilder, Canelo and Pacquiao are doing that range in non-mega fights. Charlo brothers are not close to the stars the fighters I just listed.

                  Which is why the attempts at building this huge hype train the week before the fight on here were hilarious.

                  Like, who are you fooling as Charlo fans with thread titles like:

                  Man this was worth my money

                  What a great card this is!

                  Glad I spent near 80 bucks

                  Takes like that reek of insecurity and the need to get validation they didn't throw away their money.

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                  • LoadedWraps
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Al Broker
                    Crawford’s was $49.99 SD, $59.99 HD if I recall

                    And price has a lot to do with it.

                    Doesn't matter that inflation is a thing, if fans are used to paying around 60, and have only historically paid north of 70 with few and recent exceptions, asking us to drop almost 80 for a non mega fight is crazy lol.

                    If the PPV was 30-50 I would have bought it without hesitation but once you pass 60, I'm definitely going to think about what I'm paying for. Sadly, many people don't realize you can profit by selling something for less, lowering the barrier and resistance much of the public has for a higher price point. Nah, let's ask for as much as possible and hope the interest is there to where you can not only break even but profit. Lol.

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                    • KTFOKING
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by LoadedWraps

                      While is why the attempts at building this huge hype train the week before the fight on here were hilarious.

                      Like, who are you fooling as Charlo fans with thread titles like:

                      Man this was worth my money

                      What a great card this is!

                      Glad I spent near 80 bucks

                      Takes like that reek of insecurity and the need to get validation they didn't throw away their money.

                      The card was good and I didn't mind one bit paying what I did. However, it was never going to do good PPV numbers. Those that thought it would are kidding themselves. Charlo's are not close to being box office. Stacking the card is for the hardcore fans, the casuals don't care much for it and Arum has mentioned this numerous of times. Haymon definitely had to go in his own pockets to pay some of the purses as no way the PPV covers it all. But hard to put these fights on network TV when you have at least three fighters making over 2M and another in Rosario that was likely close to that mark.

                      Davis/LSC doesn't have a great UC like the card over the weekend but it will do much better numbers. Davis IS a star unlike the Charlos.

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