Which was more of a “Dive...” Kovalev vs Canelo or Rosario vs Charlo?

[Thuglife Nelo]

Why would somebody work so hard so long in a fight just to ,,"dive" and get hurt inches from they're life? Maybe a small pocket of money to get hurt seriously? Think about it, there's more money in winning, more paydays, a culmination of hard work leaving a leaving a legacy? Perhaps wanting to be an all time great? Winning titles? Whoever thinks the Mafia or mob controls boxing doesn't know what is real and what is fake. The fighters do though, they're the ones ending up in the hospital. Do you want their nametag on their wrist for approval? Smh this ain't WWE where the outcomes fake but the pains real. This is pro life boxing. Whoever who goes into the ring risks their life or losing a part of them in the process. You don't have to look too far man look at Yusef Mack oh and u guess those punches that hit him he allowed it to happen to throw the fights? Smh man. This is the pain business. Anything can happen.

Coercion. You think Figueroa Jr. really wanted to fight Ugas with recent inactivity? Figueroa Jr. would be advised to take the fight if he wanted the Spence fight or any other title fight. These are what are discussed in meetings for the fighter’s roadmap.

Charlo PPVs are an investment. You want to build it up. Boxing has had a rough year and for competitive brands to stay a float for the sake of a network’s agreement you gotta give something..

Average salary in the DOP is 1.5mil pesos. Give the kid an extra $150K USD.

Have PBC purses been disclosed during the pandemic?

[Boxingfanatic75]

this one, kovalev's performance was strange but the KO wasn't (maybe it had something to do with the weight restrictions and the fact that he was almost KO'd 2 months before that fight).
lets say rosario didn't take a dive, ok. but you have to admit that looked fucking su****ious

Ya, because promoters just love the added “fix” expense of rushing fighters to the hospital After they can clearly recover in the dressing room.

GTFO here with this tin foil hat conspiracy s h ! T

[ReggieKray]

People keep trying to defend both but they have to admit that they were both very unnatural, unrealistic, exaggerated, unusual, and not to difficult to understand why they would potentially be fixed.

So if you do think they were not fixed then good for you. You enjoyed the fights and were satisfied.

If you felt they were fixed then that's fine. They actually gave you a lot to drive that narrative.

And lastly if your like me, you'd like to belive they weren't fixed but in the end there was just too much funny sh/it that it just ruins the fight entirely. Like I'm a fan of Canelo, but the Kovalev fight was just a let down. I also thought Jermell was doing alright but given all the funny sh/it it left a lot of us conflicted. I think a lot of us just really want clear wins without any controversy.

Jermall gave us a clear win today so we can cling to that but obviously Jermell's fight seems like it was greased with controversy from the very beginning with the BS announcing.

[BLASTER1]

Or you could go the Danny Green route and boast that the opponent gave up, mad, as the Charlo’s normally do. I’d imagine Jermell would be telling in the interview “man he just gave up, didn’t want anymore, that shot didn’t really hurt him.” As long as you justify that the previous shots hurt Rosario then you can say those parts.

Bro I'm impressed that you know about the Danny Green situation.
Not many guys apart from Aussies know or give a *** with went down in that odvious pay off.

[Bandman]

it gotta be rosario. kovalev might've been drained and a shell of who he was but canelo really flattened him. this shot on rosario was deflected. it was your typical stab jab popularized by floyd. ward used to also score with it. floyd used to step into it with full power but I've never seen this reaction...

if this was a dive rosario has a future in hollywood for that acting.

[BodyBagz]

Not a good thread but the answer is clear. Of the 2, Nelo was more legit.

[moochi]

Bro I'm impressed that you know about the Danny Green situation.
Not many guys apart from Aussies know or give a *** with went down in that odvious pay off.

Was that the Paul Briggs fight?

[BLASTER1]

Was that the Paul Briggs fight?

Yes thats the one.

[Monzon99]

Kovalev or Divalov was the most obvious dive of the century. Old man, end of career, needs money to pay off two women he assaulted, no other money options, voila, Canelo and Oscar suddenly offer him a career high payday. They have the 9 figure dazn deal to buy off any opponent. Of course Kovalev took the money and dove.

If it was real KO then Oscar and Canelo would have gone after Beterbiev next. But they can't buy off Beterbiev who is not in a dire straights no leverage position where he has to take what is offered.

Anyone who thinks Kov KO vs Canelo was real is a flat out fool.

Similar deal with Rosario Charlo. Money fighter offers no money fighter an offer he can't refuse. Suspect looking fight. Cmon fellas, you can't be so naive. Boxing is as crooked as a drunk's sobriety test.

[ironmike2012]

Kovalev or Divalov was the most obvious dive of the century. Old man, end of career, needs money to pay off two women he assaulted, no other money options, voila, Canelo and Oscar suddenly offer him a career high payday. They have the 9 figure dazn deal to buy off any opponent. Of course Kovalev took the money and dove.

If it was real KO then Oscar and Canelo would have gone after Beterbiev next. But they can't buy off Beterbiev who is not in a dire straights no leverage position where he has to take what is offered.

Anyone who thinks Kov KO vs Canelo was real is a flat out fool.

Similar deal with Rosario Charlo. Money fighter offers no money fighter an offer he can't refuse. Suspect looking fight. Cmon fellas, you can't be so naive. Boxing is as crooked as a drunk's sobriety test.

Agree, Canelo went the distance with so many smaller fighters, but KO's a durable Kov.
Kov was able to beat Bhop and Ward, but didn't throw any meaningful punches, he looked like he was not even trying.