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  • CauliflowerEars
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    #101
    Originally posted by revelated
    Ok but

    First of all, Feo's family is from Honduras, not him. He did not grow up there and that makes a difference, no matter how authentic "the varrio" is.

    Secondly, people just glaze over this little snippet without giving it much credence. Maybe he's grown since or learned from that experience, but it does give some insight to his psyche and emotional fortitude.
    Not that there is anything wrong with wanting to be away from drama and stress...but that it shows he is not as emotionally/mentally stable as can be, that he is still maturing and growing. Is all his talk just hopeful reinforcement? Or is that who he really is ?
    And I get that it helps hype and promote the fight (trash talk and manufactured beefs). It's just I don't think his little breakdown was part of the hype train.

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      #102
      Originally posted by CauliflowerEars
      First of all, Feo's family is from Honduras, not him. He did not grow up there and that makes a difference, no matter how authentic "the varrio" is.

      Secondly, people just glaze over this little snippet without giving it much credence. Maybe he's grown since or learned from that experience, but it does give some insight to his psyche and emotional fortitude.
      Not that there is anything wrong with wanting to be away from drama and stress...but that it shows he is not as emotionally/mentally stable as can be, that he is still maturing and growing. Is all his talk just hopeful reinforcement? Or is that who he really is ?
      And I get that it helps hype and promote the fight (trash talk and manufactured beefs). It's just I don't think his little breakdown was part of the hype train.
      All I know is we saw how the exact same experience affected Keef. He's nowhere near the same fighter as before he met that girl. And he's older than Teo.

      Same with Rungvisai. Not the same fighter since he broke up with his woman.

      IMO, Teo got tied down, much less married, way too early. It's a settling experience and it messes with your mind. Girl is cute, but she's probably in his ear about how she doesn't like him risking his health in the ring. That affects you.

      That's my point - he's got his family against the wedding, he's got (possibly) his wife discouraging what he's doing, he's having second thoughts about doing it, etc. All of these are good ways to end up getting hurt in the ring because your heart isn't in it anymore.

      If you can't go in that ring without baggage, you will get hurt. We've seen it time and again. That's a big reason I can't consider this fight 50/50. We don't know what Teo's mental state is going in. This could be Tyson/Spinks all over again.

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      • Ajvar
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        #103
        Originally posted by Silver Spear
        The difference between critique and trolling is the intended affect. If you critique someone you do it with the intent to help that person understand their flaws etc. When you troll you do it with the intent to ridicule and make them look foolish. Redkach is trolling. If you think he showed up to the same church as Vasyl and it was pure coincidence then you are a fool. Why would Redkach critique him "fairly" and post all of those things about Vasyl and then expect Vasyl to be fine with it when he comes up to him and tries to pretend to be friends?

        That is called 2 faced or hypocritical. Redkach knows what he is doing and based on his social media posts and interactions I am not surprised. I am not saying Vasyl is innocent in any of this either, we still have not heard his side of the story and everyone is basing it all on what Redkach posted.
        Redkatch came to that church with his family by the way. He might have done it intentionally but if you think he wanted to fight or literally jest in Loma's face then YOU are the fool.
        The fact of showing yourself in somebody face is not trolling. The fact of having fun of public fuсkups is not trolling just because you chose to laugh on some person you know of.
        When you can't back up your jests objectively speaking while you picked someone you dislike, when your reaction is even slightly unjust while you picked someone you dislike - THEN it is trolling.
        But just a fact that one man feels especially good of having fun from another specific man instead of noname is not a fact of trolling if that man can objectively prove that his reaction is reasonable - as if ANYbody else would think the same - hence you CAN'T use TROLLING word against him.

        Example the dіck I know posted really ****** **** which went viral. Hundreds of other people made public fun posts of that. The fact that I know that arsehole doesn't take away my right to express myself about his public ****up without some hyped up morale compass Ben (or whoever) telling me that I am wrong of me "trolling" him... as long as I don't cross the fair line of course.
        Last edited by Ajvar; 09-24-2020, 09:28 PM.

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          #104
          Originally posted by CauliflowerEars
          First of all, Feo's family is from Honduras, not him. He did not grow up there and that makes a difference, no matter how authentic "the varrio" is.

          Secondly, people just glaze over this little snippet without giving it much credence. Maybe he's grown since or learned from that experience, but it does give some insight to his psyche and emotional fortitude.
          Not that there is anything wrong with wanting to be away from drama and stress...but that it shows he is not as emotionally/mentally stable as can be, that he is still maturing and growing. Is all his talk just hopeful reinforcement? Or is that who he really is ?
          And I get that it helps hype and promote the fight (trash talk and manufactured beefs). It's just I don't think his little breakdown was part of the hype train.
          ....Barrio.....

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          • Silver Spear
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            #105
            Originally posted by revelated
            All I know is we saw how the exact same experience affected Keef. He's nowhere near the same fighter as before he met that girl. And he's older than Teo.

            Same with Rungvisai. Not the same fighter since he broke up with his woman.

            IMO, Teo got tied down, much less married, way too early. It's a settling experience and it messes with your mind. Girl is cute, but she's probably in his ear about how she doesn't like him risking his health in the ring. That affects you.

            That's my point - he's got his family against the wedding, he's got (possibly) his wife discouraging what he's doing, he's having second thoughts about doing it, etc. All of these are good ways to end up getting hurt in the ring because your heart isn't in it anymore.

            If you can't go in that ring without baggage, you will get hurt. We've seen it time and again. That's a big reason I can't consider this fight 50/50. We don't know what Teo's mental state is going in. This could be Tyson/Spinks all over again.
            You can add Kaepernick to that list. Since he has been with his current GF he has changed a lot.

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            • Silver Spear
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              #106
              Originally posted by Ajvar
              Redkatch came to that church with his family by the way. He might have done it intentionally but if you think he wanted to fight or literally jest in Loma's face then YOU are the fool.
              The fact of showing yourself in somebody face is not trolling. The fact of having fun of public fuсkups is not trolling just because you chose to laugh on some person you know of.
              When you can't back up your jests objectively speaking while you picked someone you dislike, when your reaction is even slightly unjust while you picked someone you dislike - THEN it is trolling.
              But just a fact that one man feels especially good of having fun from another specific man instead of noname is not a fact of trolling if that man can objectively prove that his reaction is reasonable - as if ANYbody else would think the same - hence you CAN'T use TROLLING word against him.

              Example the dіck I know posted really ****** **** which went viral. Hundreds of other people made public fun posts of that. The fact that I know that arsehole doesn't take away my right to express myself about his public ****up without some hyped up morale compass Ben (or whoever) telling me that I am wrong of me "trolling" him... as long as I don't cross the fair line of course.
              I understand what you are saying. You have a different definition of what trolling means. Redkach does not attend that church yet he coincidentally went to the same church and mass time as the one that Vasyl was performing in, not just attending but performing in. Then he acts like nothing ever happened between the two and tries to act like a friend. Then he goes on to talk about how his father raised him and how his faith and belief is garbage etc........

              You are right. This was all by accident and Redkach was not purposely trolling or looking for a reaction from Vasyl. No baiting at all...........

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              • VatoMulatto
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                #107
                "In my country, if you insult somebody, you'd better be prepared for them to hurt you. "If we were back in my country, he would learn pretty quickly that he can't run his mouth like that,"
                This is global and not just the Ukraine. No matter what country you go to, if you talk **** you better be ready to fight or you could get your ass whooped. If you talk the talk you better walk the walk.

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                • Lomadeaux
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                  #108
                  Originally posted by Bigchip
                  My favorite fighter in boxing is Vasiliy Lomachenko. I mean he is awesome!!!

                  But Vasiliy you:

                  1. Are not in your own country.
                  2. Are beginning to talk a little too much, which is out of character.

                  Let this kid do the talking and you train hard and be ready for fight night.
                  You think he’s been doing a lot of talking? It doesn’t seem like he’s been saying much at all.

                  Lopez is going to look absolutely ****** for talking this way and getting blasted.

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                  • Lomadeaux
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                    #109
                    Originally posted by VatoMulatto
                    This is global and not just the Ukraine. No matter what country you go to, if you talk **** you better be ready to fight or you could get your ass whooped. If you talk the talk you better walk the walk.
                    Really? The culture in America has gotten horrible. So many people run their mouth and act like complete clowns and have no intention to fight.

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                      #110
                      Originally posted by Lomadeaux
                      Really? The culture in America has gotten horrible. So many people run their mouth and act like complete clowns and have no intention to fight.
                      Its really all about social media.

                      Everyone wants to make a name for themselves. Everyone wants to be "the guy". Everyone wants people to notice them.

                      Look at Trump. People think they can say whatever they want because of "freedom". Fake news. Fake news.

                      You don't need fscts to back up your position and if you double down on it you must be right.

                      Admitting you're wrong is weak. Strong people never admit they're wrong.

                      This is exactly how America is right now and how young people want to be which is disgusting. Take a look at this forum and all the old ass men here talking ****** ****.

                      Worst part is all these people are whats wrong with the world and they're so ****** they can't see it.

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