Prime Chad Dawson vs. Artur Beterbiev.

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  • BoloShot
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    #11
    Originally posted by boliodogs
    Beterbiev is vastly superior to Dawson who was knocked out by light punching Ward. Beterbiev would murder him.
    Ward only knocked him out because he drained him down from 175 to 168 which is the biggest ***** move I've ever seen a fighter use to get a big name. Moving up to challenge takes serious balls but this is the polar opposite so imma say this takes serious levels of pussiness.

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    • VG_Addict
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      #12
      You're delusional if you think Dawson wouldn't give slow, flat-footed Beterbiev trouble with his speed.

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        #13
        Beterbeast its imposible to beat

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        • Belef
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          #14
          I truly think he is the best light heavy of the history of the cathegory
          Last edited by Belef; 09-22-2020, 03:27 PM.

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          • VG_Addict
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            #15
            Originally posted by Belef
            I truly think he is the best light heavy of the history of the cathegory
            He's not even in the top 100. Not yet at least.

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              #16
              Originally posted by VG_Addict
              He's not even in the top 100. Not yet at least.
              This.Canelo is going to retire him next year

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              • NearHypnos
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                #17
                Originally posted by VG_Addict
                Dawson is much faster than Beterbiev. Beterbiev isn't exactly quick.
                He’ll give problems to Beterbiev the way Khan gave Canelo “problems”... Where survival each round is enough to almost edge you the round despite never out landing him...moral victory if you will.

                Beterbiev is just flat out better (skills/timing), stronger, more powerful, and more durable.

                Slower or not, Dawson was never good enough OR so swift that it’d be a talking point here. Again, he wasn’t uncommonly/ next level quick.

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                • VG_Addict
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by NearHypnos
                  He’ll give problems to Beterbiev the way Khan gave Canelo “problems”... Where survival each round is enough to almost edge you the round despite never out landing him...moral victory if you will.

                  Beterbiev is just flat out better (skills/timing), stronger, more powerful, and more durable.

                  Slower or not, Dawson was never good enough OR so swift that it’d be a talking point here. Again, he wasn’t uncommonly/ next level quick.
                  Dawson would repeatedly beat Beterbiev to the punch. Beterbiev has never fought anyone as quick as Dawson was.
                  Last edited by VG_Addict; 09-22-2020, 04:17 PM.

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                  • Lomasexual
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by whollisboxing
                    I actually think that prime Chad Dawson was Dawson from 2007-2010, the version who beat Tomasz Adamek, Antonio Tarver, Bernard Hopkins and Glen Johnson.

                    I'm not saying he would beat Beterbiev but I do think he would present some issues.
                    Agreed. I'm not seeing how Beterbiev is better than the cream of the crop of LHW back in that time.

                    I think that Beterbiev vs Adamek would have been a close, great fight to watch.

                    Even more, I'd have liked to have seen Beterbiev against Paul Briggs, who had those two FOTY candidates with Adamek.

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                    • NearHypnos
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by VG_Addict
                      Dawson would repeatedly beat Beterbiev to the punch. Beterbiev has never fought anyone as quick as Dawson was.
                      He’ll beat him to the punch a few times, definitely...but it won’t matter because EVERYONE lands on Dawson because he’s got awful defensive instincts. He will literally just stand there and take it as he did many times. Dawson has quick hands and feet but he doesn’t think or react fast enough defensively. Beterbiev is a faster decision maker with better shot selection.

                      There’s a lot of subtleties in Beterbiev’s game, from the way he continues to reduce space/cut the ring off even during exchanges, his subtle (and sometimes sudden) head movement, his ability to block and catch punches, etc etc

                      Dawson will move and jab and look good while doing it but Beterbiev will cut the ring off and the first exchange will have Dawson in deep s hit.

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