Is Wilder the fighter with the biggest balls in the sport?

[Marchegiano]

I give you a pass for your ignorance. The topic of Wills was argued ad nauseum, he was no match for Jack even on his best day. Your guy retired early to avoid the inevitable ass-whooping coming his way for the likes of Patterson, Williams and Liston had he hung around much longer.

Who said anything about Wills? As if Wills was the only solid contender Jack ducked.

I said he's the biggest duck in history not I'm really upset he ducked one dude. This is half-assed attempt Ghost.

[GhostofDempsey]

Who said anything about Wills? As if Wills was the only solid contender Jack ducked.

I said he's the biggest duck in history not I'm really upset he ducked one dude. This is half-assed attempt Ghost.

He never ducked anyone. Wills is the one that stirred all the controversy. Aside from that, no one else comes to mind. Dempsey was green and declined a fight with a much more experienced Langford, the two of them had the utmost respect for one another. Langford considered him the greatest HW ever and thought he would beat Wills.

If we want to talk ducking, Wilder himself ducked a $7M payday with Whyte since he is scared to fight overseas. No one else would have turned down that fight, no one!

[QueensburyRules]

He never ducked anyone. Wills is the one that stirred all the controversy. Aside from that, no one else comes to mind. Dempsey was green and declined a fight with a much more experienced Langford, the two of them had the utmost respect for one another. Langford considered him the greatest HW ever and thought he would beat Wills.

If we want to talk ducking, Wilder himself ducked a $7M payday with Whyte since he is scared to fight overseas. No one else would have turned down that fight, no one!

- -Also ducked Povetkin on the eve of their fight. Ducked all his biggest paydays including his biggest, AJ!

[Marchegiano]

He never ducked anyone. Wills is the one that stirred all the controversy. Aside from that, no one else comes to mind. Dempsey was green and declined a fight with a much more experienced Langford, the two of them had the utmost respect for one another. Langford considered him the greatest HW ever and thought he would beat Wills.

If we want to talk ducking, Wilder himself ducked a $7M payday with Whyte since he is scared to fight overseas. No one else would have turned down that fight, no one!

Ghost names two because he's insecure and knows Jack gets **** for Wills and Langford all the time by loads of historical minded fans.

So I guess I should start with them

“I only ducked one fighter and that was Sam Langford" - Jack Dempsey

Even Jack admits he ducked Sammy.

Langford - top ten of his era
Wills - top ten of his era
Norfolk - top ten of his era
Greb - top ten of his era
Mehan - **** but Dempsey ducked him anyway because he whooped Jack plenty
Jeanette - another top of his era

And that's without even looking for names I didn't know.

Also, Dempsey is a draft dodger.

Conversely, Marciano

Patterson debuted the same year Marciano became champion and was not even a top ten the year Marciano retired.

Liston hadn't even debuted by the time The Rock was champion and Sonny was 8-1 when Marciano retired. Far for a top ten HW.

Cleveland Williams? Jesus Ghost that's a reach. For those who don't know Marciano retired in 55, Williams would not be a top HW until the 60s and didn't fight for a title until the mid 60s I'm pretty sure Ali-Williams is a full decade post Marciano. ****ing dumb name to list. Liston and Patterson are dumb, but Williams? Who actually believes Marciano knew who Williams even was?


Also for those interested, Ring has the following for ratings the year Marciano left the game:

1. Archie Moore
2. Bob Baker
3. Tommy (Hurricane) Jackson
4. John Holman
5. Willie Pastrano
6. Nino Valdes
7. Johnny Summerlin
8. Bob Satterfield
9. Young Jack Johnson
10. Ezzard Charles

And he did serve his country when Uncle Sam called him to duty.

Wilder? Oh boy you believe Joshua who still hasn't fought a risky fight and managed to get a loss? Povetkin who avoided Wlad for a decade?

Men who ask for a figure, get it, then back out ought not get the benefit of doubt

Man who avoid title fights, repeatedly, through their career ought not get the benefit of doubt

Men who fight men who can beat them and are a huge risk to their legacy ought to get the benefit of doubt.

Yer too old to be such a ****** fanboy.

Even if Marciano and Wilder together ducked every name you have, with Queenie's help, you've cobbled together a list of 5 names. That's one less than Jack ducked on his own and again, I ain't even searched for more. I'm sure there's more, every time I crack a book there's a section on how Dempsey ducked the subject of the book.

So, ya ****** mother ****er, thanks for helping me prove my point. Dempsey's the biggest duck in HW history. Fanboy ass *****es like yourself ought not accuse anyone of anything, your time is best served trying to polish that turd you call an ATG

[PRINCEKOOL]

I agree, and I think people who think AJ "erased his demons" in the Ruiz rematch are crazy.

Winning the fight was only part 1 of his recovery process 'I have stated numerous times on here? That Anthony Joshua did not entirely Slay the Dragon that night' Joshua is not the same fighter he was before Ruiz Junior, and I believe there is still unfinished business between them.

Joshua needs to blast out Pulev within 6-8 rounds 'None of this semi-violent game of tick tactics' etc.

[LoadedWraps]

Ghost names two because he's insecure and knows Jack gets **** for Wills and Langford all the time by loads of historical minded fans.

So I guess I should start with them

“I only ducked one fighter and that was Sam Langford" - Jack Dempsey

Even Jack admits he ducked Sammy.

Langford - top ten of his era
Wills - top ten of his era
Norfolk - top ten of his era
Greb - top ten of his era
Mehan - **** but Dempsey ducked him anyway because he whooped Jack plenty
Jeanette - another top of his era

And that's without even looking for names I didn't know.

Also, Dempsey is a draft dodger.

Conversely, Marciano

Patterson debuted the same year Marciano became champion and was not even a top ten the year Marciano retired.

Liston hadn't even debuted by the time The Rock was champion and Sonny was 8-1 when Marciano retired. Far for a top ten HW.

Cleveland Williams? Jesus Ghost that's a reach. For those who don't know Marciano retired in 55, Williams would not be a top HW until the 60s and didn't fight for a title until the mid 60s I'm pretty sure Ali-Williams is a full decade post Marciano. ****ing dumb name to list. Liston and Patterson are dumb, but Williams? Who actually believes Marciano knew who Williams even was?


Also for those interested, Ring has the following for ratings the year Marciano left the game:

1. Archie Moore
2. Bob Baker
3. Tommy (Hurricane) Jackson
4. John Holman
5. Willie Pastrano
6. Nino Valdes
7. Johnny Summerlin
8. Bob Satterfield
9. Young Jack Johnson
10. Ezzard Charles

And he did serve his country when Uncle Sam called him to duty.

Wilder? Oh boy you believe Joshua who still hasn't fought a risky fight and managed to get a loss? Povetkin who avoided Wlad for a decade?

Men who ask for a figure, get it, then back out ought not get the benefit of doubt

Man who avoid title fights, repeatedly, through their career ought not get the benefit of doubt

Men who fight men who can beat them and are a huge risk to their legacy ought to get the benefit of doubt.

Yer too old to be such a ****** fanboy.

Even if Marciano and Wilder together ducked every name you have, with Queenie's help, you've cobbled together a list of 5 names. That's one less than Jack ducked on his own and again, I ain't even searched for more. I'm sure there's more, every time I crack a book there's a section on how Dempsey ducked the subject of the book.

So, ya ****** mother ****er, thanks for helping me prove my point. Dempsey's the biggest duck in HW history. Fanboy ass *****es like yourself ought not accuse anyone of anything, your time is best served trying to polish that turd you call an ATG

As a vet myself, I have a special level of disdain for draft dodgers and similar attitudes of indifference or cowardice towards patriotism and duty.

[GhostofDempsey]

Ghost names two because he's insecure and knows Jack gets **** for Wills and Langford all the time by loads of historical minded fans.

So I guess I should start with them

“I only ducked one fighter and that was Sam Langford" - Jack Dempsey

Even Jack admits he ducked Sammy.

Langford - top ten of his era
Wills - top ten of his era
Norfolk - top ten of his era
Greb - top ten of his era
Mehan - **** but Dempsey ducked him anyway because he whooped Jack plenty
Jeanette - another top of his era

And that's without even looking for names I didn't know.

Also, Dempsey is a draft dodger.

Conversely, Marciano

Patterson debuted the same year Marciano became champion and was not even a top ten the year Marciano retired.

Liston hadn't even debuted by the time The Rock was champion and Sonny was 8-1 when Marciano retired. Far for a top ten HW.

Cleveland Williams? Jesus Ghost that's a reach. For those who don't know Marciano retired in 55, Williams would not be a top HW until the 60s and didn't fight for a title until the mid 60s I'm pretty sure Ali-Williams is a full decade post Marciano. ****ing dumb name to list. Liston and Patterson are dumb, but Williams? Who actually believes Marciano knew who Williams even was?


Also for those interested, Ring has the following for ratings the year Marciano left the game:

1. Archie Moore
2. Bob Baker
3. Tommy (Hurricane) Jackson
4. John Holman
5. Willie Pastrano
6. Nino Valdes
7. Johnny Summerlin
8. Bob Satterfield
9. Young Jack Johnson
10. Ezzard Charles

And he did serve his country when Uncle Sam called him to duty.

Wilder? Oh boy you believe Joshua who still hasn't fought a risky fight and managed to get a loss? Povetkin who avoided Wlad for a decade?

Men who ask for a figure, get it, then back out ought not get the benefit of doubt

Man who avoid title fights, repeatedly, through their career ought not get the benefit of doubt

Men who fight men who can beat them and are a huge risk to their legacy ought to get the benefit of doubt.

Yer too old to be such a ****** fanboy.

Even if Marciano and Wilder together ducked every name you have, with Queenie's help, you've cobbled together a list of 5 names. That's one less than Jack ducked on his own and again, I ain't even searched for more. I'm sure there's more, every time I crack a book there's a section on how Dempsey ducked the subject of the book.

So, ya ****** mother ****er, thanks for helping me prove my point. Dempsey's the biggest duck in HW history. Fanboy ass *****es like yourself ought not accuse anyone of anything, your time is best served trying to polish that turd you call an ATG

I wonder you’re friends with that clown Travesty. You two fools are cut for the same shyt-stained cloth. Both hijack threads with off topic bullshyt.

Dempsey was on record avoiding Langford while Jack was still green, he said it himself. It is hardly a duck if one fighter is still coming up while the other is prime. Wills was a hype job. He got KTFO by some obscure Italian HW, and beaten badly by Sharkey after he ducked Tunney for his biggest payday ever. Talk about a ****** m’fer.

Wills people screwed him over by not delivering promised money prior to the contracted fights Dempsey signed. You already know this, you are just being a salty b!tch right now. Wills was an easy win for Jack.

He never ducked Jeannette, who we already established was a liar, or so your BFF insists. Name one fighter who would allow a last minute swap of opponent during an exhibition. You think Floyd would have fought anyone else who walked into the ring the night he KO’d the 125 pound Japanese skateboarder? Not a chance, yet you clowns hold Dempsey to another standard as if he should fight a different opponent for free no less.

Greb was never a contender for his title. Neither were the others. Next time you rely on someone else to help you, make sure they know something about boxing.

Your boy Marciano was a wife beater and cheated on his wife every chance he got. A cheapskate who would sooner beat someone’s ass rather than pay his debts. While Patterson, Liston and Cleveland Williams were on the rise, he saw the heat coming. He couldn’t beat on anymore old men or hype jobs. He would have been mauled by all three of them. Had Charles not killed a man in the ring he would have finished off Rocky in their first match when he peeled his nose off his face.

In a head to head fight, Jack would have decapitated Rocky. Facts! Now your a hopeless WILDER FAN, another hype job full of excuses and still ducking AJ. Hell, he ducked Whyte!

[GhostofDempsey]

As a vet myself, I have a special level of disdain for draft dodgers and similar attitudes of indifference or cowardice towards patriotism and duty.

Dempsey served honorably in the Coast Guard after his boxing career.

[LoadedWraps]

I wonder you’re friends with that clown Travesty. You two fools are cut for the same shyt-stained cloth. Both hijack threads with off topic bullshyt.

Dempsey was on record avoiding Langford while Jack was still green, he said it himself. It is hardly a duck if one fighter is still coming up while the other is prime. Wills was a hype job. He got KTFO by some obscure Italian HW, and beaten badly by Sharkey after he ducked Tunney for his biggest payday ever. Talk about a ****** m’fer.

Wills people screwed him over by not delivering promised money prior to the contracted fights Dempsey signed. You already know this, you are just being a salty b!tch right now. Wills was an easy win for Jack.

He never ducked Jeannette, who we already established was a liar, or so your BFF insists. Name one fighter who would allow a last minute swap of opponent during an exhibition. You think Floyd would have fought anyone else who walked into the ring the night he KO’d the 125 pound Japanese skateboarder? Not a chance, yet you clowns hold Dempsey to another standard as if he should fight a different opponent for free no less.

Greb was never a contender for his title. Neither were the others. Next time you rely on someone else to help you, make sure they know something about boxing.

Your boy Marciano was a wife beater and cheated on his wife every chance he got. A cheapskate who would sooner beat someone’s ass rather than pay his debts. While Patterson, Liston and Cleveland Williams were on the rise, he saw the heat coming. He couldn’t beat on anymore old men or hype jobs. He would have been mauled by all three of them. Had Charles not killed a man in the ring he would have finished off Rocky in their first match when he peeled his nose off his face.

In a head to head fight, Jack would have decapitated Rocky. Facts! Now your a hopeless WILDER FAN, another hype job full of excuses and still ducking AJ. Hell, he ducked Whyte!

Marciano might be the greatest HW to ever do it.

[GhostofDempsey]

Marciano might be the greatest HW to ever do it.

LMAO! Ok sure thing.