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  • Corelone
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    #11
    Andy still puts the seventh round on the video and laughs with his friends. The revenge was pitiful. Fury walked into the lions den, dens, and walked out with the lion's skin. Fury said English officials aren't necessary, he apologised for AJ and, by hook or crook, or any way he had to, he got the title. These are the, Fury gots no fans, but want to put Whyte on PPV people. Whyte has more fans over there than Fury. It's beginning to look like envy to me.

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      #12
      Originally posted by BangEM
      LMAO. He also had all that exposure before he fought Wilder the 2nd time. But how many people bought the PPV in the UK? They didn't even do 150k while AJ vs Ruiz 1 that was on a champions league night with two English clubs did over 500k.

      Your nan isn't going to an event to watch a fight. And Josh was never on terrestrial TV as Fury as being even at the height of his career and he was breaking all records. Just selected appearances once in a while. He came out of the gate with his fans and they're not going anywhere. His fans aren't as loud as Fury fans but they'll always come out to support him.

      Look at their social media accounts: Josh's numbers are still 5x Fury's numbers. So where are all these new fans Fury acquired since his insta account hasn't really grown apart from the big bump it got on the night he beat Wilder?
      I'd love to know how you got the PPV numbers for BT Sport, seeing as they didn't release any and the same company that tallies Sky Sports numbers, Nielson Media Reaearch, doesn't have access to BT lol

      It doesn't matter where my Nan goes, the point is, if people like her know who Tyson Fury is then the masses who actually follow sport will. It's all about exposure not social media figures, and Tyson Fury has had far more exposure in the UK than AJ. What's AJ had? A few interviews on Sky Sports and some adverts that people wonder, "who was that guy?" lol the broader masses in Britain know more about Tyson Fury than they do AJ. Sorry chap, but it's logic. You can tally up social media figures all you like, they don't tell you who has subscribed from where. Are all AJ's subscribers from Britain? Not a chance. He's a global star from Europe to Africa. Why? Because he's had a lot of exposure in the likes of Ukraine, Germany, Russia, and Africa. Whereas Fury has had a considerable amount more exposure than AJ in Britain. I'll say it again, if you think Fury wouldn't sell out Wembley then you need to give your head a wobble.

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        #13
        Originally posted by Squared.Circle
        I'd love to know how you got the PPV numbers for BT Sport, seeing as they didn't release any and the same company that tallies Sky Sports numbers, Nielson Media Reaearch, doesn't have access to BT lol

        It doesn't matter where my Nan goes, the point is, if people like her know who Tyson Fury is then the masses who actually follow sport will. It's all about exposure not social media figures, and Tyson Fury has had far more exposure in the UK than AJ. What's AJ had? A few interviews on Sky Sports and some adverts that people wonder, "who was that guy?" lol the broader masses in Britain know more about Tyson Fury than they do AJ. Sorry chap, but it's logic. You can tally up social media figures all you like, they don't tell you who has subscribed from where. Are all AJ's subscribers from Britain? Not a chance. He's a global star from Europe to Africa. Why? Because he's had a lot of exposure in the likes of Ukraine, Germany, Russia, and Africa. Whereas Fury has had a considerable amount more exposure than AJ in Britain. I'll say it again, if you think Fury wouldn't sell out Wembley then you need to give your head a wobble.
        BT's box office numbers isn't that difficult to get. Whenever they do boxing PPV - they usually have wrestling PPV. Once you know the constant range of their wrestling PPV numbers on weekends that there's no boxing PPV - you can easily deduce what the boxing PPV numbers are.

        If Fury vs Wilder ever sold anything close to over 200k - trust Fish Eyes to be out there talking about it. And the fact that they increased the fee to same price as AJ vs Ruiz 2 killed their chances of doing decent PPV numbers.

        MY point is: Josh has NEVER needed TV exposure in his career and he has broken all records. When during his career, apart from the lead up to the 2012 Olympics have you ever seen Josh doing all kinds of shows on TV? Apart from Skysports - the only show he goes on on/off is the Graham Norton show. And he rarely does interviews. Yet it has NEVER affected his starpower. So that type of "exposure" has never been his thing.

        Fury can keep doing that but it doesn't mean it will make him a draw. His fights are boring and he doesn't even have the fanatic Rocky Hatton type of fan base who're mostly football lads. Fury fans are mostly pub chavs who would watch him fight for free in a pub whilst downing a cheap £1.20 pint at Wetherspoon. LOL.

        Fury isn't half as popular as AJ in the UK. If Fury thinks he's now the bigger star - there's no point fighting in Vegas. Let him bring his fights to the UK and let's see if he can break Josh's records.
        Last edited by BangEM; 09-16-2020, 08:15 PM.

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          #14
          Originally posted by DougalDylan
          Nah Tyson's never been a ticket seller even after Klitschko which was a much bigger win. Ajs a puncher they always sell more tickets than skill.
          Let’s hope with Fury’s new adopted style that May change. I think people forget juSt how boring Fury was to watch. He was always a super boxer but it takes an aggressive fighter to bring out the best in Fury or a aggressive fighter that can’t fight going backwards for Fury t become aggressive . I can’t see Fury adopting those same tactics against AJ. As fantastic as he looked against Wilder there were clear openings to attack.However I imagine he fought according to his opponents lack of Imagination

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            #15
            Originally posted by BangEM
            BT's box office numbers isn't that difficult to get. Whenever they do boxing PPV - they usually have wrestling PPV. Once you know the constant range of their wrestling PPV numbers on weekends that there's no boxing PPV - you can easily deduce what the boxing PPV numbers are.

            If Fury vs Wilder ever sold anything close to over 200k - trust Fish Eyes to be out there talking about it. And the fact that they increased the fee to same price as AJ vs Ruiz 2 killed their chances of doing decent PPV numbers.

            MY point is: Josh has NEVER needed TV exposure in his career and he has broken all records. When during his career, apart from the lead up to the 2012 Olympics have you ever seen Josh doing all kinds of shows on TV? Apart from Skysports - the only show he goes on on/off is the Graham Norton show. And he rarely does interviews. Yet it has NEVER affected his starpower. So that type of "exposure" has never been his thing.

            Fury can keep doing that but it doesn't mean it will make him a draw. His fights are boring and he doesn't even have the fanatic Rocky Hatton type of fan base who're mostly football lads. Fury fans are mostly pub chavs who would watch him fight for free in a pub whilst downing a cheap £1.20 pint at Wetherspoon. LOL.

            Fury isn't half as popular as AJ in the UK. If Fury thinks he's now the bigger star - there's no point fighting in Vegas. Let him bring his fights to the UK and let's see if he can break Josh's records.
            So, basically, you don't have any clue what the PPV numbers were? Lol You can guesstimate all you want, it'll be just that, a guesstimate.

            Whether AJ has TV exposure or not is absolutely irrelevant. We're not talking about AJ's stable fan base, we're talking about Fury's ever growing fan base, which has inevitably grown after all his TV exposure. Exposure + large audience = publicity = fans. It's basic logic.

            As for Fury's fans, well, they travelled to and packed out Vegas, so they're not as cheap as you think lol

            Fury appears to be looking to break the American market and maximise his profits, so why would he come back to the UK just to "break Josh's records"? If coronavirus wasn't in play, and AJ was an actual draw in America, you really think he'd choose to fight in the UK instead of Vegas? Come on now lol If he didn't get ****** out by Ruiz then the only thing that would have brought him back would be this pandemic and subsequent travel restrictions.

            You're also silly if you think Fury's last four fights wouldn't have packed out Wembley.

            He's got more charisma, more terrestrial TV exposure, and a more endearing story to tell. Fury is the darling of the UK whether people like it or not.

            And again, I'm an AJ fan, but a realistic one.

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              #16
              Originally posted by Squared.Circle
              So, basically, you don't have any clue what the PPV numbers were? Lol You can guesstimate all you want, it'll be just that, a guesstimate.

              Whether AJ has TV exposure or not is absolutely irrelevant. We're not talking about AJ's stable fan base, we're talking about Fury's ever growing fan base, which has inevitably grown after all his TV exposure. Exposure + large audience = publicity = fans. It's basic logic.

              As for Fury's fans, well, they travelled to and packed out Vegas, so they're not as cheap as you think lol

              Fury appears to be looking to break the American market and maximise his profits, so why would he come back to the UK just to "break Josh's records"? If coronavirus wasn't in play, and AJ was an actual draw in America, you really think he'd choose to fight in the UK instead of Vegas? Come on now lol If he didn't get ****** out by Ruiz then the only thing that would have brought him back would be this pandemic and subsequent travel restrictions.

              You're also silly if you think Fury's last four fights wouldn't have packed out Wembley.

              He's got more charisma, more terrestrial TV exposure, and a more endearing story to tell. Fury is the darling of the UK whether people like it or not.

              And again, I'm an AJ fan, but a realistic one.
              Well, if you actually did maths in school and know what constants/variables are - my guesstimate for the PPV range isn't rocket science. It's basically how smart people calculate the forecasts the population follow in their daily lives. So the joke is on you and it shows you're not as smart as you want me to believe.

              And isn't laughable that a guy like you who's making brazen assumptions based on his nan and having TV exposure without concrete numbers to back his theory (every other number that can be proven in real-time shows AJ is by far still the biggest boxer) is laughing at a guesstimate that was calculated mathematically based on real numbers? LMAO. Mate, you're becoming as delusional as rabid Fury fans and it looks like you have been bitten by the gypo bug. LMAO.

              I'm not arguing whether Fury's fan base is growing or not. Obviously, his fan base has grown. The debate here is about who has the biggest fan base. A fan base can grow from 3 to 5 but that doesn't mean it's greater than 10, regardless of how loud they're. It's just common sense. Fury doesn't even have the cache to tap into AJ's core fan base because he doesn't offer them what they like and a lot of them either don't like his style or the person he's. His resume also isn't impressive and they see him as the stereotypical gypsy con artist. You can argue all you want but facts are facts.

              Too bad Fury fans couldn't travel to see him fight Wallin and Schwarz while AJ fans sold out MSG in the same country with pricier tickets. Funny, isn't it?

              Well, AJ has never been interested in "breaking America" - his primary focus has always been to make the UK a boxing hub, so as to give a lot of young boxers more exposure. He only decided to go America to help Eddie Hearn's DAZN deal since Hearn had so much pressure on him back then and to see if he could lure Wilder into a fight. Left to him, he would've stayed in the UK, since there's no need to go to America and he was the 2nd biggest earner in boxing without going to the US.

              Fury on the other hand needed a new market because his style and gimmick aren't attractive to the average Brit. And there's a reason why he had mental breakdown because he didn't feel he was loved. Even the tickets for his rematch vs Wlad in Manchester struggled to sell...FACT. So it's just funny how a lot of you whimsically developed amnesia when it comes Fury and you have started re-writing history like it would change things. Laughable.

              LMAO @ Fury's last 4 fights selling out Wembley. You must think Wembley is Accrington Stanley football stadium. A lot of the 3 Lions matches (mostly qualifiers and friendlies) don't even come close to selling out Wembley in a footy crazed country where the 3 Lions are the pride of the country. Yet you think Fury's last 4 fights would. LMAOOOO. Most of you are taking Wembley for granted because AJ made selling out the stadium so easy and normal. That statement is as ludicrous as LDBC's preposterous claim that Wilder would also sell out Wembley at the height of their grandiose delusions. LMAOO.

              Fury has the charisma of a crack head and TV exposure doesn't translate to real numbers. AJ has never had TV exposure in his professional career and he's the biggest draw in British boxing history. And that should tell you something.

              BTW, there are videos of people's nans, grandads and infants all over YouTube in the UK who claim they're AJ fans. And he was actually in a video in Spain during summer with someone's nan and she said she's his biggest fan. Just letting you know since it's a battle of nans. LMAO.
              Last edited by BangEM; 09-17-2020, 07:33 AM.

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                Originally posted by BangEM
                Well, if you actually did maths in school and know what constants/variables are - my guesstimate for the PPV range isn't rocket science. It's basically how smart people calculate the forecasts the population follow in their daily lives. So the joke is on you and it shows you're not as smart as you want me to believe.

                And isn't laughable that a guy like you who's making brazen assumptions based on his nan and having TV exposure without concrete numbers to back his theory (every other number that can be proven in real-time shows AJ is by far still the biggest boxer) is laughing at a guesstimate that was calculated mathematically based on real numbers? LMAO. Mate, you're becoming as delusional as rabid Fury fans and it looks like you have been bitten by the gypo bug. LMAO.

                I'm not arguing whether Fury's fan base is growing or not. Obviously, his fan base has grown. The debate here is about who has the biggest fan base. A fan base can grow from 3 to 5 but that doesn't mean it's greater than 10, regardless of how loud they're. It's just common sense. Fury doesn't even have the cache to tap into AJ's core fan base because he doesn't offer them what they like and a lot of them either don't like his style or the person he's. His resume also isn't impressive and they see him as the stereotypical gypsy con artist. You can argue all you want but facts are facts.

                Too bad Fury fans couldn't travel to see him fight Wallin and Schwarz while AJ fans sold out MSG in the same country with pricier tickets. Funny, isn't it?

                Well, AJ has never been interested in "breaking America" - his primary focus has always been to make the UK a boxing hub, so as to give a lot of young boxers more exposure. He only decided to go America to help Eddie Hearn's DAZN deal since Hearn had so much pressure on him back then and to see if he could lure Wilder into a fight. Left to him, he would've stayed in the UK, since there's no need to go to America and he was the 2nd biggest earner in boxing without going to the US.

                Fury on the other hand needed a new market because his style and gimmick aren't attractive to the average Brit. And there's a reason why he had mental breakdown because he didn't feel he was loved. Even the tickets for his rematch vs Wlad in Manchester struggled to sell...FACT. So it's just funny how a lot of you whimsically developed amnesia when it comes Fury and you have started re-writing history like it would change things. Laughable.

                LMAO @ Fury's last 4 fights selling out Wembley. You must think Wembley is Accrington Stanley football stadium. A lot of the 3 Lions matches (mostly qualifiers and friendlies) don't even come close to selling out Wembley in a footy crazed country where the 3 Lions are the pride of the country. Yet you think Fury's last 4 fights would. LMAOOOO. Most of you are taking Wembley for granted because AJ made selling out the stadium so easy and normal. That statement is as ludicrous as LDBC's preposterous claim that Wilder would also sell out Wembley at the height of their grandiose delusions. LMAOO.

                Fury has the charisma of a crack head and TV exposure doesn't translate to real numbers. AJ has never had TV exposure in his professional career and he's the biggest draw in British boxing history. And that should tell you something.

                BTW, there are videos of people's nans, grandads and infants all over YouTube in the UK who claim they're AJ fans. And he was actually in a video in Spain during summer with someone's nan and she said she's his biggest fan. Just letting you know since it's a battle of nans. LMAO.
                There's no need to keep repeating that you have no idea whatsoever what the PPV numbers were, we got it the first time lol

                My logic that Fury is now more known than AJ is just that, logic. I don't see how you think multiple TV appearances in front of millions of people does not equate to more people knowing who Fury is
                That's just weird. Why do fangirl/hater mindsets blind people so much? As well as being far more charismatic, Fury also has the more endearing story, whether you like it or not. That's indisputable. Your liccle rants just make it clear why you think Fury wouldn't sell out Wembley with ease

                Ok, I actually stopped reading at this rétarded comment, "facts are facts", after transferring your personal hater opinion onto millions of non-boxing fans or standard casuals in Britain and presuming you know their mindset, and they all think like you lol

                Potatoes are always gonna potate. Nothing else left to say here. Moving on.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Squared.Circle
                  There's no need to keep repeating that you have no idea whatsoever what the PPV numbers were, we got it the first time lol

                  My logic that Fury is now more known than AJ is just that, logic. I don't see how you think multiple TV appearances in front of millions of people does not equate to more people knowing who Fury is
                  That's just weird. Why do fangirl/hater mindsets blind people so much? As well as being far more charismatic, Fury also has the more endearing story, whether you like it or not. That's indisputable. Your liccle rants just make it clear why you think Fury wouldn't sell out Wembley with ease

                  Ok, I actually stopped reading at this rétarded comment, "facts are facts", after transferring your personal hater opinion onto millions of non-boxing fans or standard casuals in Britain and presuming you know their mindset, and they all think like you lol

                  Potatoes are always gonna potate. Nothing else left to say here. Moving on.
                  Obviously, you’d have to stop reading because superior logic will always be too complex for your pea-sized brain. LMAOOO

                  You made illogical assumptions based of yer nan and TV exposure like Fury hasn’t had Fury TV exposure throughout his career. He was all over the news for his rants against ***s and ****sexuals. So how’s he not known?

                  No time for illogical innuendos and you’re not bright enough to work with real numbers, logic and maths. Let Fury prove how much of a draw he’s by bringing his fight to the UK.

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