Comments Thread For: Gervonta Davis: Spence-Garcia Is 50-50 Fight; Lopez Can Cause Problems For Loma

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  • SteveM
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    #31
    Originally posted by BoxingIsGreat
    Just an observation and situational analysis.

    Spence seems to have had many things replaced in the head area after that accident. His dental work makes him appear like he's wearing a permanent mouthpiece. Unnatural.

    We'll see.
    interesting, thanks. I think there is NO way he can NOT have been affected by an accident like that.

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    • SteveM
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      #32
      Originally posted by BLASTER1
      I hear ya bro and i agree 💯 but their is one dude faning for LSC and that is the infamous 1hourRun.
      God bless the man that sticks to his guns. lol.
      1hourRun knows quite a lot about boxing but his heart rules his head when it comes to rooting for certain boxers plus he likes trolling.

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      • BoxingIsGreat
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        #33
        Originally posted by pasawayako
        If spence is not affected by the accident then this fight is 50-50 but the accident is what make this fight a 60-40 in favor of Garcia.
        If the accident hadn't happened I'd have it 70/30 Spence. Now I favor Garcia 60/40.

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          #34
          Originally posted by BLASTER1
          I hear ya bro and i agree 💯 but their is one dude faning for LSC and that is the infamous 1hourRun.
          God bless the man that sticks to his guns. lol.
          1HourRun is picking Cruz? Interesting.

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          • Curt Henning
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            #35
            Originally posted by SteveM
            Most of you're analysis is good from a matchmaking pov - except the last bit.

            Before the rematch people were asking if Wilder is one of the best ever HWs and 33-34 years old for a HW is not the same as for a LW if you are comparing Loma to Wilder re age. Plus specifically Loma has a lot more mileage on his clock and by common concensus is fighting a weight above his best weight.

            About Tank, what you wrote sounds like you are his manager - its all about the financials. Boxing fans want to see the best fights at the right time and fighting Loma when he is in his mid thirties gets much less credit - same as fighting blown up super bantamweights. That fight should not be a ppv it'll be a blow out and we all know it - I haven't read one poster rooting for LSC to win, have you?
            boxing fans always want to see the best fights at the right time....myself included....as a realist though i realize that doesnt always happen and we know why...that is out of our control and something that happens frequently for financial/political reasons...over the years ive come to accept it...its just part of the sport/business.....ideally we always get the best fights when they make the most sense....but we dont live in that reality so i accept business interests will take control at times....every fighter operates the same way...even everyones idol golovkin...whom his fans swore was "different" and a "different breed"....hes done the same things....its all good i just accept the reality we are in

            tank davis could care less if YOU think loma will have more mileage on him in a year or two than wilder has...makes no difference to him...especially if at that point loma had turned back the young upstart teo lopez(under the premise that tank/loma fight in a year or two its assumed that loma beats teo right?).....youre just adding mileage you want to be there because you already preemptively making excuses....the guy didnt turn pro till 26...its not as if loma has been in a ton of wars....

            and youre changing the narrative before wilder/fury 2...it wasnt "is wilder one of the greatest HWs"...lol...thats laughable...his critics said he was lucky to get a draw...in fact thats generous because they all claimed fury was clearly robbed...even alot of his fans admitted that he was lucky to get a draw and at worst most clearly admitted he was outboxed easily for a majority of the rounds...so i think you are way off there and with all due respect i think youre reaching desperately there

            yeah alot of of what i said sounds like matchmaker/manager talk...but thats the perspective you need to look at it from...because all of these guys operate that way whether you want to admit it or not...and im trying to present to you an angle in tanks defense....his perspective is different

            if teo was selling 12k in tickets and being featured on canelo undercards and was headlining his own cards on espn do you honestly think hed be in a rush for this fight? maybe he would....cause even i think teo is a rare breed...but its likely he wouldnt....hed be happy taking 2-3 mil a fight and selling 12k in tickets and headlining his own cards.....because he doesnt have that yet hes trying to get a fight that will get him to that point ASAP.....

            i could keep going on and repeating myself..ill try to stop...tanks vantage point is a little different than most his age or younger.....hes not concerned that a few hundred people on boxing forums will want to discredit a potential victory over loma a year or two from now....

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              #36
              Originally posted by Curt Henning
              heres the difference though....what most of you fail to realize or want to ignore

              teo is also with top rank...its easier fight to make...but beyond that...has lopez ever sold 12k in tickets as a headliner? has teo ever headlined cards on showtime? has teo ever been chief support to a floyd ppv that did over 2 mil buys? the answer to those are no.....teo needs a fight like this to fast track him and his profile......tank does not....tank could build his and still make the fight in a year or two and it might be even bigger(provided loma beats teo)...

              without the loma fight teo is stuck headlining ho hum cards in front of 3-5k or still being an undercard to fury, crawford or loma....this is teos shot as fast tracking himself to the top

              tank is about to do his first ppv at 25...how many top 20 p4p guys today have done a ppv at 25 let alone headlined it?

              teo needs the risk more than davis does right now...its that simple...i take nothing away from teo for making this fight...huge nuts and i applaud him...im pulling for him....but he and tanks situation arent really equal

              canelo wasnt rushing his career for golovkin and tank isnt rushing his for loma....he can still fight loma next year or the year after that and its totally fine...the only people that will hate on it are those afraid that father time will beat loma...but those same people didnt mind fury delaying the wilder rematch for a year and fury beating up on a 33-34 year old wilder though....
              Excuses, nothing more. If he wanted to fight, he wouldve at least tried to make it happen. But him and his promoter both said no...now theyre talking in 2 years.

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                #37
                Originally posted by El_Mero
                Excuses, nothing more. If he wanted to fight, he wouldve at least tried to make it happen. But him and his promoter both said no...now theyre talking in 2 years.
                youre saying that because you know what i said has a ton of sense to it.....you only want to see it from your eyes...from the eye of the fan that "only wants the best fights when i want them"....the game doesnt always work that way...in fact it works that way alot less than it works the other way...and your favorites operate in the same manner

                in another year or two, provided both guys are winning, the fight becomes big and ppv worthy

                fact of the matter is that teo isnt headlining his own shows...hes not selling 12k in tickets....teo was making, before this fight...4-5x less what davis is making...if teo was in tanks position he wouldnt be taking his fight right now either...and he wants to be there.....and he knows its a slow, painful, route to get there without loma...

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                  #38
                  Notice he only said its a 50/50 because he is close with one guy, Spence, and the other guy, Garcia, gave him a sparring opportunity, LOL. Basically, we got just as much analysis from Tank as of lot of us know already. Focus on your fight Tank, LOL!

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                  • El_Mero
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Curt Henning
                    youre saying that because you know what i said has a ton of sense to it.....you only want to see it from your eyes...from the eye of the fan that "only wants the best fights when i want them"....the game doesnt always work that way...in fact it works that way alot less than it works the other way...and your favorites operate in the same manner

                    in another year or two, provided both guys are winning, the fight becomes big and ppv worthy

                    fact of the matter is that teo isnt headlining his own shows...hes not selling 12k in tickets....teo was making, before this fight...4-5x less what davis is making...if teo was in tanks position he wouldnt be taking his fight right now either...and he wants to be there.....and he knows its a slow, painful, route to get there without loma...
                    I see it more as Teo trying to prove that hes one of the best in the sport. Boxing isnt the long game and boxers more than likely have a short shelf life. Hes got balls and is proving it, for bad or good, that he wants to fight and beat the best out there. Davis is milking it while pulling the wool over yours and a lot of others eyes. You can call it how you see it but not everyone is in agreeance. Davis hasnt fought anyone near a Commey type yet. And a lot of posters on here were claiming Teo wouldnt fight him. Fighting Leo is a start in the right direction but Davis is also 2 years older than Lopez, so i wouldve expected the older Davis, who apparently has more accolades cause hes a ticket seller to have fought BETTER competition by now. You can say Teo, if he was in Davis position wouldnt be taking this fight, but I dont see it at all that way. Some fighters WANT to prove they're the best by fighting those that others deem the best. Others go about it in a different direction ala Davis who has a good following but his actions/opponents dont match up to what hes got. I think kid has talent but comparing the 2 at this point is night and day imo. Loma is considered one of the best in the world p4p and Teo wants all that smoke. Davis said no a long time ago, repeated by his promoter, and is fighting Leo who isnt even in the convo for p4p lists. Big difference

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                    • BLASTER1
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by 1hourRun
                      El 'Terremoto' can do it! I'm not going against Gevonta, he is the favorite for good reasons. I feel the NSB is grossly underestimating Leo, I have a habit of rooting for the underdog; their victories are soo much sweeter.
                      Yer bro i got you mixed up with Santa_ saying that he's going for Leo against Tank.
                      Good for you though bro if you think he has a chance.
                      I would give it like a 75/25 in Tanks favour.
                      All Tank has to do is get in shape but we'll see.

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