If It makes money it makes sense

[mECHsLAVE]

I'm simply asking someone to explain why this guaranteed purse is double Mayweather-Judah when it's sure to do far less numbers.

As for Arum's numbers, I'm sure he was banking on a huge Mexican live gate in Vegas and strong PPV from supporters of a 'Mexican champion' going up against the 'P4P champ.' Baldomir is not Mexican.

[kallsop]

Well it seems Mayweather - Baldomir makes around 10.5 million for him , it also makes more sense than fighting undeserving Antonio Margarito, it also allows him to be the undisputed welterweight king, and not have some other paper belt that Margarito has

PBF-Judah had 350,000 PPV buys and generated $15M. That's total revenue, PBF's take was $4M.

PBF-Baldomir won't be more than 500,000 buys. Maybe PBF can make $6M, but that's a stretch.

Please provide proof that PBF is making $10.5M on the Baldomir fight.

[Double]

Personally, I don't see anyway possible for those numbers to be possible. The math doesn't add up.

How can he make double what he did with the Judah fight, when this fight won't do that level of PPV or live gate? And Baldomir is making more than Judah did, also. LOL Where is this extra 6 million coming from? Mayweather has received so much criticism that I wouldn't put it past him to just invent a number higher than the Margarito offer, and release it to the press to be spread around. Someone do the math and explain how this purse is possible.

With victories over Judah and Gatti, two very popular fighters in different markets, Baldomir has quite a following. Oh and did I mention he's Latino? Latino's make up a pretty sizeable fan base for boxing wouldn't you say? This fight is also for the UNDISPUTED WW Championship. There's only two undisputed champions above 135 last time I checked? Not to mention Baldomir is the modern day Cindarella man and Flooyd is number 1 lb 4 lb. this fight is a promoters dream and will make big money.

[marlo]

I'm simply asking someone to explain why this guaranteed purse is double Mayweather-Judah when it's sure to do far less numbers.

As for Arum's numbers, I'm sure he was banking on a huge Mexican live gate in Vegas and strong PPV from supporters of a 'Mexican champion' going up against the 'P4P champ.' Baldomir is not Mexican.

Dude, If Margarito had any sort of real pull with Mexican fans he would have been headlining PPVs and drawing in real crowds for the past few years. I'm sure that a Margarito/Mayweather fight at this point would attract a certain level of interest from Mexicans fans who want to see a good, tough Mexican slugger take on Mayweather, but I don't believe for a second that Margarito could draw enough fans to cover an $8 Million purse split for Mayweather. Hardly anyone other than hardcore boxing fans know who this guy is, and no one gave a **** about him until Mayweather supposedly started "ducking" him. I think this is all just a very clever media campaign on Bob Arum's part to get Margarito (a fighter who he had neglected) some press. Mayweather and Arum had a tumultuous relationship for years and as soon as Mayweather bought out his contract (presumably to get a shot at DLH because Arum refuses to negociate with GBP) we started hearing non-stop about who Floyd Mayweather Jr. (the recognized P4P king) was deathly afraid of Antonio Margarito (a WBO beltholder without a single impressive victory). I call BS and I'm tired of this ****.

I'm not saying that Margo is a bum, but if he wants to get a fight with Mayweather down the road that will produce an unquestionably large payday for both of them he has to shut the **** up and fight some decent opponents.

[marlo]

PBF-Judah had 350,000 PPV buys and generated $15M. That's total revenue, PBF's take was $4M.

PBF-Baldomir won't be more than 500,000 buys. Maybe PBF can make $6M, but that's a stretch.

Please provide proof that PBF is making $10.5M on the Baldomir fight.

I don't know $10.5 Million, but I could easily see Mayweather getting $5-6 Million plus a percentage of the PPV gross.

[marlo]

Baldomir is not Mexican.

Oh and he may not be Mexican, but he is the linear Welterweight Champ and his last two victories over Judah and a huge fan favorite in the form of Arturo Gatti are much bigger than anything Margarito has done in his career.

[Castillofan]

I can't fault Mayweather for not fighting Margarito at this time because I think we all know that Margarito is a hard fight regardless of what anyone thinks of how deserving or undeserving he might be. Personally, I think that the majority of people that are keeping boxing alive today would prefer to see that fight, but that's my opinion.

You can't expect Mayweather to forsake the De La Hoya fight. Nobody in their right mind would do anything to jeopardize that much money. I suspect that though DLH says he wants to fight Mayweather, if Mayweather were to be injured or prevented from competing against him at the right time in some way, DLH would just chalk it up as if Mayweather missed his chance and move on, fight someone else and retire.

What bothers me is that Mayweather talks a bunch of **** about how bad Margarito is, knowing he will have to talk him up if and when they sign to fight in the future.

[mECHsLAVE]

I don't know $10.5 Million, but I could easily see Mayweather getting $5-6 Million plus a percentage of the PPV gross.

LOL You just agreed with me. I said the $10.5 M sounded very suspect. That's my point. You're trying to disagree with me, but you're agreeing with me. What is YOUR point exactly?

[Left2body]

I can't fault Mayweather for not fighting Margarito at this time because I think we all know that Margarito is a hard fight regardless of what anyone thinks of how deserving or undeserving he might be. Personally, I think that the majority of people that are keeping boxing alive today would prefer to see that fight, but that's my opinion.

You can't expect Mayweather to forsake the De La Hoya fight. Nobody in their right mind would do anything to jeopardize that much money. I suspect that though DLH says he wants to fight Mayweather, if Mayweather were to be injured or prevented from competing against him at the right time in some way, DLH would just chalk it up as if Mayweather missed his chance and move on, fight someone else and retire.

What bothers me is that Mayweather talks a bunch of **** about how bad Margarito is, knowing he will have to talk him up if and when they sign to fight in the future.

Not true. Even after signing to fight Gatti PBF was still dissing Gatti and calling him a C level fighter, he even said this in a special split screen interview that PBF and Gatti had in the boxing broadcast the week before there fight. I think if he signs to fight Margarito he would do the same thing and call him a bum all the way up to fight time.

[marlo]

LOL You just agreed with me. I said the $10.5 M sounded very suspect. That's my point. You're trying to disagree with me, but you're agreeing with me. What is YOUR point exactly?

Why don't the thread again man? Originally, I took issue with you claiming that Mayweather would resort to putting out misinformation regarding his purse for this fight while taking Bob Arum's unsubstantiated claim that he could pay Mayweather $8 Million for a fight against Margarito at face value. The $10.5 million dollar claim was made by the thread starter, not any of the sources I've read. Dan Rafael's article on ESPN yesterday said that his sources told him that Mayweather would make up to $ 8 million plus a % of the PPV gross. Now, if I've misread the thread starter’s original post (I thought that he meant Mayweather would receive a $10.5 million purse) and he was assuming that Floyd would make over $10 million from the combination his purse and the PPV split, then I would agree that the latter scenario could be a possibility.

Once again, your insinuation that Mayweather's people planted stories about his purse in the media is funny to me considering the fact that you don't seem to question the validity of an $8 million offer to fight a guy whose last PPV did 30,000 buys when the only person who could verify it's authenticity when it was on the table is a disgruntled promoter who is a known pathological liar and scumbag.