A look at Baldomir-Mayweather.

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  • Castillofan
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    A look at Baldomir-Mayweather.

    Not to get too Antonio Tarver about things, but yes, Carlos Baldomir should be billed ahead of Floyd Mayweather in this fight. It has been confirmed that the two will fight presumably on HBO on November 4th, and let's not lose sight of a few things: Mayweather relinquished the IBF welterweight championship that never meant much when he won it from Zab Judah, since Judah originally lost that title in his match with Baldomir; also, in beating Judah, Baldomir became the linear welterweight champion. Knocking out Arturo Gatti assembled the image in most people's minds that Baldomir is the dominant fighter in the division, and now that Mayweather has signed to fight him, we really will get to see some business sorted out.

    I would love to be able to criticise Mayweather for taking this fight, but he is waiting on De La Hoya next year and he needs to honor his contract by taking another fight this year. I assume Mayweather figures that he will deal with Baldomir easily, being too fast and skilled etc. From this, Baldomir should take heart, as Judah and Gatti fought him believing that they would beat him handily enough, and look what happened to them. Mayweather will not falter in his preparations, but he may be arrogant in his approach to Baldomir; a mistake that may be to his detriment.

    Short of Antonio Margarito, I don't think there is a closer representation of the physical challenge that Margarito poses to Mayweather other than Baldomir. If I cannot see Margarito get the chance to impose himself on Mayweather, Baldomir is surely the next best thing. The Argentinean will not be easily deterred and will try to force the fight onto Mayweather, ensuring one of two circumstances: Mayweather finds Baldomir easy to hit and fights with an eye towards defense while slashing Baldomir with sharp shots at range; otherwise, Baldomir might be able to take Mayweather into a hard distance fight with constant pressure and non-stop punching forcing Mayweather into that uncomfortable territory he has not seen since Jose Luis Castillo I.

    Personally, I think the prospect of Mayweather being taken apart by an honest, hard-working battlehorse like Baldomir, with nine losses, is one to savor. Indeed, if Baldomir were to have beaten Judah in January, Gatti in July, and then Mayweather in November, he would take his own slice of boxing history. The fact that he's signed to fight all of those fighters within twelve months shows that he has balls; he'll know that Mayweather is the fight of his life, and unlike Gatti, I think Baldomir will come to fight and not relent until he makes his mark on Mayweather.
  • Run
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    Even if Baldomir beats Floyd....he still isin't top 5 P4P.

    Sorry.....****ing deal with it. Not you....just anyone who wondered.



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    • Castillofan
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      #3
      Originally posted by RunWithKnives
      Even if Baldomir beats Floyd....he still isin't top 5 P4P.

      Sorry.....****ing deal with it. Not you....just anyone who wondered.
      I get that, man. With me, I just like the prospect that, unlikely as it seems, Baldomir, a supposedly average pug, the working man's champion so to speak, has the chance to go in there and destroy Floyd's legacy.

      Mayweather has been so ****ing precious about everything and he's got to the point where he's overpaid and HBO just lets him do what he wants. I would love to see someone like Baldomir, with an ugly record and a basic style, just push himself on Floyd and make him fight hard for twelve rounds to see what happens.

      Plus, for me, Baldomir fighting Judah in NYC, Gatti an AC, and now Floyd in LV, is a pretty audacious thing for the little guy.

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      • The Troll
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        #4
        Originally posted by RunWithKnives
        Even if Baldomir beats Floyd....he still isin't top 5 P4P.

        .
        Who gives a f**K about that P4P nonsense. If Baldmoir were to defeat Mayweather he would be unquestionably the top figher outside the heavyweight division.

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        • juan esparza
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          baldi will lose but not without leting pretty boy know that if he steps in the ring with margarito a much harder puncher better chin hes in trouble. but i still give baldi a chance only because hes got balls and hasnt ducked anybody .baldi should have 4 good rounds against mayweatherbut a much younger and faster mayweather will stop baldi in 9 rounds

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          • abdiel2k3
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            #6
            Originally posted by McKay
            Who gives a f**K about that P4P nonsense. If Baldmoir were to defeat Mayweather he would be unquestionably the top figher outside the heavyweight division.
            sorry nah uh
            that aint how it works
            that only matters when belts are opn the line
            but u dont become the best boxer
            the best brawler
            the best p4p fight
            just by beating one
            if baldy beats floyd he simply solidfies his title as the welter that fights blown up 140 lb fighters champion of the world
            nothin more

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            • vze2hhvj
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              its a little annoying that he took the Baldi offer over Margarito. its clear as day that PBF is a ducker, take the MArgarito fight then ill respect him.

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              • GreatestIam
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                Haha nonesense nonsense not nessacarily the first post by the replys, like the guy who said when PBF steps in the ring, "he will leave knowing that if he steps in the ring with margarito a much harder puncher better chin hes in trouble", haha what fuels guys to say these things when weve only seen PBF hurt partially in say the JLC fights and then he wasnt even hurt badly, know one has and Baldi wont be the 1st to chin check PBF to oblivian or to the point where we say he got rocked! The fact is at this point it is ******ity to try and fault PBF, simply because his resume doesnt let us, his had maybe 2 close fights against 1 guy and even then those werent that close and he was half the fighter he has turned into today. The fact is i dont see how people can bash or find faults in this guys armor and arsenal when no one has yet to expose them! If you want to look at it this way, in the last year both have fought 2 of the same fighters in Gatti and Judah, combine those two performances and who did better? Baldi is a great competitor and can handle his own with any fighter, but PBF is as good as it gets to this point and thats simply fact!


                Also for those who said by Baldi winning this upcoming fight his P4P status wouldnt be # 1, now i can agree with that but if he can beat Floyd and his last 3 fights read W Judah, W Gatti, W Mayweather plus his won like 17 fights straight in a 6 year period that reads top 5 if not top 3 P4P on my list!

                And 1 more thing the talk about Maragarito being ducked is not only old it isnt valid, the money while good, the reward isnt, if PBF was to take the fight and win what reward but money comes out of what many would then say "a fighter that hadnt proved himself and only notable win was against a green Kermit Cintron", You guys must not know it but i think PBF does a fight with Margarito will be alot more lucrative in say a year or two when he/if he establishes himself as another great fighter on the level of PBF, but until i see him fight stiffer comp then im tottally fine with PBF decsion not to fight the bum!
                Last edited by GreatestIam; 08-15-2006, 07:26 AM.

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                • El Jesus
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by McKay
                  Who gives a f**K about that P4P nonsense. If Baldmoir were to defeat Mayweather he would be unquestionably the top figher outside the heavyweight division.

                  No. What kind of logic is this? This would make him better than Pacman, who in my opinion has blown by most of the top fighters in his division two of who are assured hall of famers. There are fighters who are far more established with better skills and better records. It would be an incredible story but would NOT make him the best fighter outside the HW division. Sometimes i wonder where you come up with this stuff. Your sounding alot like Bill Walton.

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                  • Chaotic Eye
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                    p4p king = evander holyfield
































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