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  • Dubblechin
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    #11
    Originally posted by TheMyspaceDayz
    Deontay uses his physicality to win fights more than anything. He knocks people out after having lost the majority of the rounds. If you want to call that good boxing then you’re the idiot maybe? Durrr
    But that's just it. HE DOESN'T knock people out after losing the majority of the rounds. He knocks people out after winning the majority of the rounds.

    Look at the official scorecards. In 44 pro fights, Wilder was only down in TWO of them when the fights ended (Ortiz 2 and Fury 2).

    And you don't get points for physicality in the amateur boxing. You get points for scoring blows.

    All the major amateur and pro titles Wilder has won, he won them boxing. Those are the facts.
    Last edited by Dubblechin; 09-10-2020, 11:07 AM.

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      #12
      Originally posted by Dubblechin
      But that's just it. HE DOESN'T knock people out after losing the majority of the rounds. He knocks people out after winning the majority of the rounds.

      Look at the official scorecards. In 44 pro fights, Wilder was only down in TWO of them when the fights ended (Ortiz 2 and Fury 2).

      And you don't get points for physicality in the amateur boxing. You get points for scoring blows.

      All the major amateur and pro titles Wilder has won, he won them boxing. Those are the facts.
      You can polish that turd all you want. I have eyes and can see the guy isn’t an exceptional boxer in the amateurs either. He jabs whenever someone takes a step forward and then throws windmills if they take a second step. That’s it. There is little technical skill here and it shines when someone steps into him and sticks around for longer than a few seconds. Easy to hit. Good impersonation of a boxer though and you can get away with it until someone presses you and we learn you have no double jab, uppercut or left hook.

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      • ELPacman
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        #13
        I mean, to be fair, you don't need to have the greatest technique or boxing ability in the heavyweight division when you have KO powa.

        Wilder fell in love with his own power legend. I truly felt that during the Ortiz 2 fight. He literally did nothing the entire fight waiting for that 1 shot. Lucky for him, it came.

        I would say Wilder's technical ability is horrendous but it clearly worked for him often. With that said, nobody, and I mean nobody was watching him for boxing technique. You watched him because he KO'd nearly everyone he fought. That is the reason and only reason to watch Wilder.

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        • MUNG
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          #14
          wilder can box but just not as good as he can punch, if u can do both then bingo big star

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          • Dubblechin
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            #15
            Originally posted by TheMyspaceDayz
            YGood impersonation of a boxer though and you can get away with it until someone presses you and we learn you have no double jab, uppercut or left hook.

            Wilder won the title by jabbing Stiverne to death because his right hand was broken. Wilder knocked out Ortiz in fight one with a right uppercut. Wilder floored Fury in round 12 of fight one with a right hand, left hook combination.

            You don't win the National Golden Gloves, the National Amateur Championship, Olympic Bronze, go undefeated as a pro for 12 years, win a heavyweight title, and make 11 heavyweight title defenses if you can't box.

            Hell, Fury is considered the best heavyweight boxer in the world, and Wilder outboxed him in fight 1 on one official card and fought him to a draw on a second card.

            No one has ever come that close to outboxing Fury before, whether you care to acknowledge it or not.

            Most people, including the judges scoring his fights, aren't as blind as you, apparently. Everything you say Wilder isn't capable of doing boxing wise, he's done.

            Maybe you should pay more attention to the actual fights.
            Last edited by Dubblechin; 09-10-2020, 12:59 PM.

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              #16
              I think people who don’t really study fighting have a different view of what boxing is ,anyone can box ,anyone in the forum can box and there’s some probably better then a Wilder without his athletic attributes like speed ,height and power .

              But Wilder cannot box on a what should be a world champion level,he just can’t . If he wins against legit guys it’s by stoppage not points and there’s a reason why he needs or makes sure he ends fights if the judges aren’t on the payroll .

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              • ironmike2012
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                #17
                Did you laught at him?

                Wilder can box is funny, he has no boxing skills, he has a punch.
                I will say Wilder has gotten better since I first seen him, but almost any top guy could out box him.

                He made a career off of beating no one.
                Joshua would beat him, Povetkin would have won.
                I am hoping Mike Tyson can get a Wilder fight, Mike by KO is my prediction.
                Wilder's mouth is the only reason Mike came back.

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                • PRINCEKOOL
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                  #18
                  There is a simple mathematics formula to work this out When you take away a fighters power, do they still win rounds? If the answer is NO 'Then the fighter being evaluated, has some issues with their boxing skills'.

                  At elite level Wilder does not win rounds, he is always behind in all of his elite level fights 'Wilder's boxing skills are not on par with his power' His punching power is negating the deficiency in his boxing skills etc

                  Also Wilder's gameness helps him negate these issues.

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                  • LoadedWraps
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                    • TheMyspaceDayz
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Dubblechin
                      Wilder won the title by jabbing Stiverne to death because his right hand was broken. Wilder knocked out Ortiz in fight one with a right uppercut. Wilder floored Fury in round 12 of fight one with a right hand, left hook combination.

                      You don't win the National Golden Gloves, the National Amateur Championship, Olympic Bronze, go undefeated as a pro for 12 years, win a heavyweight title, and make 11 heavyweight title defenses if you can't box.

                      Hell, Fury is considered the best heavyweight boxer in the world, and Wilder outboxed him in fight 1 on one official card and fought him to a draw on a second card.

                      No one has ever come that close to outboxing Fury before, whether you care to acknowledge it or not.

                      Most people, including the judges scoring his fights, aren't as blind as you, apparently. Everything you say Wilder isn't capable of doing boxing wise, he's done.

                      Maybe you should pay more attention to the actual fights.
                      Yeah, I gave enough time for someone to pop up and tell me I’m blind.

                      You’re an idiot.

                      Stiverne gave too much respect to Wilder, as many fighters did. Low boxing IQ. The average heavyweight IQ isn’t what it once was.

                      Any real boxing fan knows that the only rounds Wilder won was the ones he knocked Fury down in. To suggest otherwise exposes you as a fanboy or a moron. I figure you’re a bit of both.
                      Last edited by TheMyspaceDayz; 09-11-2020, 03:47 AM.

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