Comments Thread For: Kavaliauskas: Crawford Was Hurt In The Third Round; I Saw It In His Eyes

[1hourRun]

I am currently not a fan of Crawford, but a close look at that clip shows that a punch was landed, Crawford held, and Kav started throwing punches that all missed, during the sequence, Crawford fell to one knee due to being off balance from all the movement Kav was doing while he was holding him.

It may have very well been the punch alone that dropped Crawford, if you want to give him that very cheap, very technical knock down it still doesn’t change the outcome of the fight.

Crawford still went on to win by TKO in the 9th and handily dropped Kav 3 times. Bottom line is Kav wasn’t even close to winning.

With that said, Crawford shouldn’t be struggling at all with that weak resume of his.

Terence, was clearly thrown on the floor. Credit goes to Ricky Gonzalez for calling it right.

[-Kev-]

Terence, was clearly thrown on the floor. Credit goes to Ricky Gonzalez for calling right.

Also if Kav really thought Crawford was hurt, and "saw it in his eyes"...he had about 1:30 left to do damage on this so called hurt Crawford and he did nothing with it.

Crawford may have very well be a little bit disoriented for all we know, but Kav didn't come through and finish him or dropped him handily. Good/great fighters capitalize on hurt fighters and go for the kill..unless the hurt fighter is so much better than the opponent and does not allow himself to be finished or doesn't allow the opponent to capitalize on him being hurt.

[Combat Talk Radio]

I am currently not a fan of Crawford, but a close look at that clip shows that a punch was landed, Crawford held, and Kav started throwing punches that all missed, during the sequence, Crawford fell to one knee due to being off balance from all the movement Kav was doing while he was holding him.

It may have very well been the punch alone that dropped Crawford, if you want to give him that very cheap, very technical knock down it still doesn’t change the outcome of the fight.

Crawford still went on to win by TKO in the 9th and handily dropped Kav 3 times. Bottom line is Kav wasn’t even close to winning.

With that said, Crawford shouldn’t be struggling at all with that weak resume of his.

Bold is the only point that matters.

The holding is the only thing that kept him up and he STILL went to one knee.

Like Ward said - it should have been a knockdown. I trust a pro boxer's word.

Would it have changed the outcome of the fight? Maybe, maybe not. Still a knockdown.

[BirdSong]

if he didn't have little midget arms he might have done more damage

[Doubledagger]

I am currently not a fan of Crawford, but a close look at that clip shows that a punch was landed, Crawford held, and Kav started throwing punches that all missed, during the sequence, Crawford fell to one knee due to being off balance from all the movement Kav was doing while he was holding him.

It may have very well been the punch alone that dropped Crawford, if you want to give him that very cheap, very technical knock down it still doesn’t change the outcome of the fight.

Crawford still went on to win by TKO in the 9th and handily dropped Kav 3 times. Bottom line is Kav wasn’t even close to winning.

With that said, Crawford shouldn’t be struggling at all with that weak resume of his.

I think it's a gray area.

Strictly speaking, Crawford fell to his knee in an entirely different sequence to the one where he got hit. At least seven second went by before Crawford fell.

However, on the other hand, if that punch didn't land earlier, would Crawford have fallen when Mean Machine shrugged him off?

I don't think so. He probably wouldn't have clinched in the first place, much less fallen down from that level of grappling.

So it's really controversial.

I wouldn't blame the ref either way, whether he gives the knockdown or doesn't

There are compelling arguments for both cases.

[Doubledagger]

Bold is the only point that matters.

The holding is the only thing that kept him up and he STILL went to one knee.

Like Ward said - it should have been a knockdown. I trust a pro boxer's word.

Would it have changed the outcome of the fight? Maybe, maybe not. Still a knockdown.

What do you mean maybe or maybe not?

It DEFINITELT would not have changed the outcome.

You get more time to recover when the knockdown is called then when the ref calls a slip.

When he calls a slip the fight resumes immediately, when the ref calls a knockdown you get the benefit of the 10 count to recover just a little longer, and then the ref will ask if you want to continue or ask you to walk away and back and all that jazz.

If anything, Mean Machine gets stopped quicker if Crawford gets all that time to take a breather.

[Mister Wolf]

What do you mean maybe or maybe not?

It DEFINITELT would not have changed the outcome.

You get more time to recover when the knockdown is called then when the ref calls a slip.

When he calls a slip the fight resumes immediately, when the ref calls a knockdown you get the benefit of the 10 count to recover just a little longer, and then the ref will ask if you want to continue or ask you to walk away and back and all that jazz.

If anything, Mean Machine gets stopped quicker if Crawford gets all that time to take a breather.

You're using logic with someone who is insane and obsessed with Crawford.

[Combat Talk Radio]

What do you mean maybe or maybe not?

It DEFINITELT would not have changed the outcome.

The flaw in your logic is the same it's always been: Crawford's temper, his #1 weakness.

We don't know how he would react to getting officially dropped by a nobody. Does he rush in like a jackass and get Bambi'd like Gamboa did? Or does he regain composure?

That question changes the fight dynamic. Because again, Crawford's temper is his #1 weakness. I don't care who wants to ignore that fact, we've seen it time and again.

[Doubledagger]

The flaw in your logic is the same it's always been: Crawford's temper, his #1 weakness.

We don't know how he would react to getting officially dropped by a nobody. Does he rush in like a jackass and get Bambi'd like Gamboa did? Or does he regain composure?

That question changes the fight dynamic. Because again, Crawford's temper is his #1 weakness. I don't care who wants to ignore that fact, we've seen it time and again.

Bro you are reaching so hard right now.

The level of reach in this post is like as if you are a real life Dhalsim (Street Fighter) or Luffy (One Piece)

That's how far you're reaching.

[Combat Talk Radio]

Bro you are reaching so hard right now.

The level of reach in this post is like as if you are a real life Dhalsim (Street Fighter) or Luffy (One Piece)

That's how far you're reaching.

It doesn't take a genius to see that Crawford has temper issues.

Lack of composure is what causes losses when you finally step up to the top of the class. See Judah/Tszyu, Mayweather/Canelo, Norwood/Gainer, Bowe/Golota, Tyson/Holyfield, Broner/Malignaggi, Pacquiao/Bradley 2, etc etc etc.

Refusing to recognize or acknowledge them because "he got the stoppage" is what's going to get this dude an L one day - assuming he doesn't retire unfulfilled like Bradley.