"Pay Per View is atool..." - Espinoza

[rickJen]

Showtime Stephen Espinoza:
The reality is that pay-per-view is a tool to help fights happen that wouldnt otherwise happen..."

https://www.boxingscene.com/espinoza...ringly--135364

[rickJen]

This is what I've always mentioned in many threads.
Greedy fighters and their managers won't shut up
asking for huge paycheck until you tell them let's do it on PPV.
Get your extra money if the fight sells.

It's nobody else's fault if the fight bombs.


So why can't TR, GBP and others use such tool to make fights happen?

[daggum]

thank you ppv for bringing us good fights like tank-santa cruz. loma-lopez is on free tv disgusting!!! free boxing! what a ****** silly motto, im glad the pbc never adapted that motto...

[rickJen]

Greedy fighters won't take fights until they're offered huge paychecks.
They won't believe promoters not making enough money for their boring fights.
Remedy is to tell them they are PPV-worth watching.

[Combat Talk Radio]

So why can't TR, GBP and others use such tool to make fights happen?

Because PPV is hard to sell to fans unless you're dealing with top level fighters in the main and decent fighters in the co-main. That's what happens when you condition fans to expect to pay $9.99 a month for the best fights.

Ironically, Vince McMahon is STILL doing PPVs for his stuff and there are people still doing that to avoid the internet disruptions with the WWE Network. UFC still does PPVs for its top level fights.

I can't blame those promoters though. When HBO threw in the towel, it was a huge blow, because HBO was a major PPV player for decades.

[rickJen]

Because PPV is hard to sell to fans unless you're dealing with top level fighters in the main and decent fighters in the co-main. That's what happens when you condition fans to expect to pay $9.99 a month for the best fights.

Ironically, Vince McMahon is STILL doing PPVs for his stuff and there are people still doing that to avoid the internet disruptions with the WWE Network. UFC still does PPVs for its top level fights.

I can't blame those promoters though. When HBO threw in the towel, it was a huge blow, because HBO was a major PPV player for decades.

"PPV's hard to sell to fans?"
You won't have anything to sell if fights won't happen.
Point is give greedy fighters guarantees comparable to a non-PPV.
They'll get their extra money if the fight sells.

HBO is the first to admit they'd rather do it on regular subscription.
But greedy fighters want more money. Espinoza just confirms what
networks prefer, plus not having to deal with distributors which takes
half of the proceeds.

[rickJen]

Networks have always known PPVs are hard to sell.
That's a given. They're not making any profit off of these PPVs.
But it's hard to convince greedy fighters they're not that watchable.

[Thuglife Nelo]

Networks have always known PPVs are hard to sell.
That's a given. They're not making any profit off of these PPVs.
But it's hard to convince greedy fighters they're not that watchable.

Yeah but in the current context of a pandemic, Showtime ain’t paying for premium prices to Haymon for the PBC fights. Therefore, Showtime is telling Haymon it’s gotta be on PPV for the fights you want.

Regarding your statement as to why other networks don’t do it, ESPN essentially does it with their $49.99 premier boxing fights. DAZN charges $19.99 for a premium fight. DAZN gives you one month full of content in the process. ESPN is a bit different. You need to have an ESPN subscription before buying one of their PPVs. Am I not mistaken?

Anything that’s on a cable provider you need to pay that. Most new gen don’t buy cable so OTT is the future. Only dummies say otherwise

[MulaKO]

"PPV's hard to sell to fans?"
You won't have anything to sell if fights won't happen.
Point is give greedy fighters guarantees comparable to a non-PPV.
They'll get their extra money if the fight sells.

HBO is the first to admit they'd rather do it on regular subscription.
But greedy fighters want more money. Espinoza just confirms what
networks prefer, plus not having to deal with distributors which takes
half of the proceeds.

Your discussing with a dummy
Worse than a crack ho who flip flops on the corner
It’s all about agenda with fgt Revelated
Wtv suits his favourite fighters , then hate blinds him

[Combat Talk Radio]

"PPV's hard to sell to fans?"
You won't have anything to sell if fights won't happen.
Point is give greedy fighters guarantees comparable to a non-PPV.
They'll get their extra money if the fight sells.

HBO is the first to admit they'd rather do it on regular subscription.
But greedy fighters want more money. Espinoza just confirms what
networks prefer, plus not having to deal with distributors which takes
half of the proceeds.

Once again, you're not wrong. But neither is Espinoza.

A PPV will pull more money in than regular broadcast. Streaming is not financially sustainable. Free TV only makes sense when it's a fighter that isn't in demand to create that demand if they can show up and perform. Which is why Crawford is the current free TV go-to.

Remember also that PPV can be seen anywhere in the world. The same isn't necessarily true of free TV.