Is Coppinger/Rafael correct? “DAZN doesn’t see Andrade as Premier fight for Canelo”

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  • Thuglife Nelo
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    #1

    Is Coppinger/Rafael correct? “DAZN doesn’t see Andrade as Premier fight for Canelo”

    Did Andrade GAIN optimistic metrics after Canelo beat Jacobs? Why wasn’t Andrade approved? Why didn’t Hearn push for Canelo vs Andrade since Andrade would benefit should an upset happen? Did Hearn complain that DAZN had a hard time justifying Andrade and which is why he was advised to market Youtubers on Andrade shows? Did it work?

    Do you guys realize now that Hearn blocked this fight? “Matchroom USA” isn’t anything without Champions. I mean who would Persuade DAZN that Undisputed wasn’t worth it as an archive for their catalogue? Lol
    Last edited by Thuglife Nelo; 09-05-2020, 08:52 AM.
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    #2
    ...I'm sorry, what's the confusion?

    Andrade is not a draw. But you already knew that, so what you quoted is something you already should have expected.

    Obviously, hardcores want their 'eye test' fighters to get big shots, but if they can't "sell out a family dinner", then they're not going to get those top level fights. Not until they earn their way up.

    If your point is to blame a promoter for blocking/tanking a fight then I would suggest pointing the finger at whoever promotes Andrade as having failed him.

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    • Thuglife Nelo
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      #3
      Originally posted by revelated
      ...I'm sorry, what's the confusion?

      Andrade is not a draw. But you already knew that, so what you quoted is something you already should have expected.

      Obviously, hardcores want their 'eye test' fighters to get big shots, but if they can't "sell out a family dinner", then they're not going to get those top level fights. Not until they earn their way up.

      If your point is to blame a promoter for blocking/tanking a fight then I would suggest pointing the finger at whoever promotes Andrade as having failed him.
      If Andrade wasn’t a Draw then why did GBP and Canelo say that the road to undisputed involved Andrade after they beat Jacobs? Not a peep from Hearn. Are you confused? What does it matter if Andrade wasn’t a Draw? Fielding wasn’t a Draw. Why wouldn’t DAZN approve Andrade but Yes to Fielding? The obvious answer is Hearn was blocking this fight at the executive level. Remember Oscar and Hearn were beefing in 2019 as they started making traction with their portfolios
      Last edited by Thuglife Nelo; 09-05-2020, 09:28 AM.

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      • Mammoth
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        Fuck, you're gay

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        • ShaneMosleySr
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          #5
          Andrade isn’t a fight that DAZN wants because Canelo murdered the only reason people would be interested: the undisputed title.

          DAZN wanted the undisputed middleweight championship. They don’t want Canelo vs. Andrade for a WBO/WBA unification bout or for a fake title at 168.

          It’s incredibly easy to understand. The fight was interesting until Canelo destroyed the only reason it was interesting.

          Originally posted by Al Broker
          If Andrade wasn’t a Draw then why did GBP and Canelo say that the road to undisputed involved Andrade after they beat Jacobs? Not a peep from Hearn. Are you confused? What does it matter if Andrade wasn’t a Draw? Fielding wasn’t a Draw. Why wouldn’t DAZN approve Andrade but Yes to Fielding? The obvious answer is Hearn was blocking this fight at the executive level. Remember Oscar and Hearn were beefing in 2019 as they started making traction with their portfolios

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          • Thuglife Nelo
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            #6
            Originally posted by ShaneMosleySr
            Andrade isn’t a fight that DAZN wants because Canelo murdered the only reason people would be interested: the undisputed title.

            DAZN wanted the undisputed middleweight championship. They don’t want Canelo vs. Andrade for a WBO/WBA unification bout or for a fake title at 168.

            It’s incredibly easy to understand. The fight was interesting until Canelo destroyed the only reason it was interesting.
            lol. You don't even recall chronological order. Canelo wanted Undisputed back in January of 2019. Why would DAZN even question Andrade's position unless they don't understand what a full World Title is?

            You're even purposefully falsifying the scenario. Canelo had the WBC, WBA, and IBF after beating Jacobs! NOT A PEEP FROM HEARN or ANDRADE FOR UNDISPUTED! Then out of nowhere the WBC ranks Canelo Franchise and he loses the belt. THEN ANDRADE CALLS OUT CANELO AFTER THE FACT! Canelo no longer holds the WBC and states that fighting Andrade is no longer an option.

            Blame Hearn for not negotiating with GBP for Undisputed since Unifications trump Mandos nor would the WBC have worried about Al Haymon's move with Charlo!

            Therefore, Hearn blocked the fight! Even worse, Coppinger, if true that he shills for Hearn, is NOW SAYING THAT DAZN doesn't value Andrade - a Champion - as fighter for Canelo? Surely Matchroom and DAZN are taking the piss. LMAO

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              #7
              I love how people claim I’m distorting facts when they distort them.

              Canelo beat Jacobs to get his third title.

              He said he wanted to do the undisputed fight.

              The reason it was never negotiated is because the IBF immediately ordered a mandatory.

              Canelo vacated and left the division instead of fighting said mandatory. He also lost his WBC belt for not fighting a mandatory.

              So the reason it was never discussed isn’t because Andrade and Hearn didn’t want it, it’s because Canelo vacated 2/3 of his belts.

              After that happened, DAZN didn’t want that fight.

              It’s clear as day.

              Originally posted by Al Broker
              lol. You don't even recall chronological order. Canelo wanted Undisputed back in January of 2019. Why would DAZN even question Andrade's position unless they don't understand what a full World Title is?

              You're even purposefully falsifying the scenario. Canelo had the WBC, WBA, and IBF after beating Jacobs! NOT A PEEP FROM HEARN or ANDRADE FOR UNDISPUTED! Then out of nowhere the WBC ranks Canelo Franchise and he loses the belt. THEN ANDRADE CALLS OUT CANELO AFTER THE FACT! Canelo no longer holds the WBC and states that fighting Andrade is no longer an option.

              Blame Hearn for not negotiating with GBP for Undisputed since Unifications trump Mandos nor would the WBC have worried about Al Haymon's move with Charlo!

              Therefore, Hearn blocked the fight! Even worse, Coppinger, if true that he shills for Hearn, is NOW SAYING THAT DAZN doesn't value Andrade - a Champion - as fighter for Canelo? Surely Matchroom and DAZN are taking the piss. LMAO

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              • keepemup
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                #8
                I feel like an undefeated fighter of Andrades caliber against Canelo is an easy fight to sell.

                Canelo has fought lesser talent and still sold greatly so I dont see why this would be any different.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by keepemup
                  I feel like an undefeated fighter of Andrades caliber against Canelo is an easy fight to sell.

                  Canelo has fought lesser talent and still sold greatly so I dont see why this would be any different.
                  Have you actually watched a Andrade fight ?
                  I have watched a few and never came away thinking " damn I can't wait to see him fight again ".

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                  • Thuglife Nelo
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by ShaneMosleySr
                    I love how people claim I’m distorting facts when they distort them.

                    Canelo beat Jacobs to get his third title.

                    He said he wanted to do the undisputed fight.

                    The reason it was never negotiated is because the IBF immediately ordered a mandatory.

                    Canelo vacated and left the division instead of fighting said mandatory. He also lost his WBC belt for not fighting a mandatory.

                    So the reason it was never discussed isn’t because Andrade and Hearn didn’t want it, it’s because Canelo vacated 2/3 of his belts.

                    After that happened, DAZN didn’t want that fight.

                    It’s clear as day.
                    Nope. Both Haymon and Hearn enjoyed their positions swarming GBP.

                    Haymon AGAIN, KNEW, that GBP would not go to PURSE BID with Haymon for Derevyanchenko. You can't even make this up! Devry took less for GGG. Meaning Canelo GAVE DEVRY an offer. From when the IBF ''ordered'' in May - a week and a half after Canelo beat Jacobs, GBP was hit with the PURSE BID. During Mid June, HAYMON EVEN throws ANOTHER BONE to the WBC, same WEEK, to order Charlo. Assume that because Canelo loses the WBC and is ordered Franchise Champ. Interesting how Haymon infiltrated the month of June with Charlo and Devry going to PURSE BIDS! lol.

                    Even Jake Donovan in the May article said ''if a resolution could be met'' between GBP and Haymon for Devry. Meanwhile, HEARN is hiding like a betch knowing GBP is having a hassle with Haymon so don't help nor HAVE DAZN APPROVE THE ANDRADE UNIFICATION FIGHT since Undisputed would've trumped the Mando. That's not even what's funny. Canelo was down to fight Devry but Haymon wanted it to go to purse bid.

                    Eat these facts with some hot sauce! I run these streets! And its a shame you don't acknowledge the politics and facts.

                    Hearn blocked Undisputed while Haymon infiltrated DAZN's 2019 map.

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