Wilder-Fury = Lewis-Bowe pro fights we never got?

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  • Marchegiano
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    Wilder-Fury = Lewis-Bowe pro fights we never got?

    So, I've heard **** all about any changes to the team. In all honesty I was hoping to hear they brought back Russ because Russ is a pretty good and knowledgeable guy.

    Given I've not heard any changes in the team I figured I'd look into what changes the team could make on their own.

    Looking into Deas, he's hardly a trainer. He's trained two other men, a 10-3 and a 10-2. Those are hardly ever careers, more like guys who went through a boxing phase in their lives. Wilder is Deas first real pro.

    So we look at Breland. A fighter in his own right it is fine to look at what Breland did in the ring and make educated guesses as to what he may be working on with Wilder now, but, Breland's acts are not his knowledge. He probably knows more than he does in the ring. Those are probably what he does well not what he can teach.

    So you move on, who trained Breland? Dude called George Washington.

    A marine in the 40s, a veteran of WWII and Korea, former sparring partner of the great Louis, but, sad ass record. His military record boasts 100 (80) - 14. His pro record is a god awful one. 12-33

    Not much is said about him beyond he once sparred with Joe and was pretty good in the Marines. So, his style? No clue. However there is more to gleam from this man.

    He trained Rid**** Bowe.


    Isn't that ****ing interesting as ****?

    Who trained Lennox Lewis? Well his ass is dead, but, we got Sugarhill to carry that knowledge.

    Who trained Bowe? His ass dead too, but, we got Breland to carry on that knowledge.

    Wilder vs Fury has WAY more to do with Bowe and Lewis than I ever realized and is talked about here.

    Makes me wonder if Fury was sending a message that only a few would really receive. Lennox had the answer to Rid**** and if those are the greatest connections on either side that spells Wilder is pretty well on his ****ing own.

    No?

    If Jay's really just a guy with money and Breland is the truth then what can Breland offer Wilder that Sugar doesn't have the answer for?

    anyway, I thought that was interesting
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    I don't understand the thread. We did get Wilder vs Fury twice with number 3 coming up. We never got Lewis vs Bowe because Bowe refused to fight Lewis.

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    • RJJ-94-02=GOAT
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      Breland also trained at the Kronk for a while too. That’s another link.

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      • coghaugen
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        Not in that league.

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          #5
          Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT
          Breland also trained at the Kronk for a while too. That’s another link.
          A decent post from you, that's rare.

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          • Marchegiano
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            Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT
            Breland also trained at the Kronk for a while too. That’s another link.
            I did not realize, good looking out bud.

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            • Marchegiano
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              #7
              Originally posted by boliodogs
              I don't understand the thread. We did get Wilder vs Fury twice with number 3 coming up. We never got Lewis vs Bowe because Bowe refused to fight Lewis.
              It's about training lineage and skill sets.

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              • RJJ-94-02=GOAT
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                Originally posted by coghaugen
                A decent post from you, that's rare.
                I’m surprised you’re in a thread that’s not about the Chris “the fake champion” Eubank.

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                • W1LL
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                  Problem is, Jay Deas is in the driving seat, Mark Breland just sweeps the bus down. Deas really don't know ish about Boxing, certainly not at the Elite level. They got by for years banking on Deontay Wilder knocking the other guy out. They have never tried to seriously fine-tune him and it's too late now. You can go through many of Wilder's fights were he lost rounds but then found the KO. Ortiz, Szpilka, Molina, Duhaupas, Washington. All of those fights he looked terrible but got the win. No changes, no improvements, just the same routine over and over. Didn't work against the Gypsy King and it is too late to make wholesale changes.

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