Who can beat top 3 guys

**REDEEMER** · 09-03-2020, 03:26 AM

In theory you can say anyone can lose on their worst day .

In theory not everyone would take the punches Ruiz did in two fights . Being muscular isn’t an advantage in itself which you contradicted because AJ is neither slow or robotic otherwise he doesn’t out box Ruiz .

In theory we don’t know how good Wilder fights certain sizeable fighters because Wilder never fought a real power puncher who is defensively responsible besides Fury who is not the biggest one punch fighter . His punch out put is not great so we can’t say if he has great cardio when you put pressure on him and early, he was sucking wind real fast in the rematch within 2 rounds .

In theory a good size pressure fighter with length would give Fury problems if he has skills to go along with it . There’s a few of them but not many . But you call him chinny when he’s not been knocked out and responds well to direct punches .

You’re being to vague and generalizing . It would take specific people to defeat each fighter not just claiming a bunch of fighters can do it based on prior fights of all .

**boliodogs** · 09-03-2020, 11:26 AM

Nobody knows for sure. They have to fight to know and until then everyone is just guessing. Right now Fury is the betting favorite to beat them all.

**Kezzer** · 09-03-2020, 11:40 AM

All three of these can be beaten obviously as has been proven already. Joshua losing to Ruiz, Wilder To fury (and very close to ortiz). fury almost lost to Cunningham, wilder and of course even one of his tune up fights!

The fact is this is heavyweights and clearly those to take the most risks (which out of the three has been AJ to date) are the most likely to lose at some point.

To answer style types, in my view:

1) fury - personally I think he could be beaten by a single puncher eg wilder; but also by a boxer with power. People think fury is invincible but he has been caught numerous times over his career. I think he would out muscle someone like a Usyk just because of his weight/power but against someone like AJ who has power and boxing ability we might find he struggles. Until he gets in the ring we won’t really know!

Joshua - his main weakness would appear to be to slick punches and speed. Klitschko caught him with a absolute peach but he did get back up and it took a number of knock downs before being stopped on his feet against Ruiz. Arguably someone like Povetkin should cause him a huge threat but he’s obviously beaten him well already so can adapt. Would still love to see how he fights wilder.

Wilder - Really it’s a boxer that really beats wilder, he’s clearly powerful and speedy at times but it’s the true art of boxing which he misses. As he has such a strong punch he will always have a chance against anyone, even if behind - and has proven it in the past.

**R-Hand Southpaw** · 09-03-2020, 11:45 AM

Fury is on record saying that the Cunningham fight was the hardest fight of his career. That was before Wilder but seems like he thinks Wilder was pretty easy.

Its tough to land big shots on Fury especially if they're telegraphed but I think a smaller quicker guy who has enough stamina to fight 12 rounds and enough pop that Fury respects it.

My pick? Usyk.

AJ lacks the ring IQ and the dog in him to win against Fury and Wilder is a one trick pony. Any other guy is going to have to hope Fury isn't dialed in.

I think Fury is easily #1 in the HW division too.

We haven't seen enough of this "new" AJ to make any have any real sense of what hes done to change himself. Now he boxes on the outside? But what can he do against a guy that isn't WAY overweight and knows how to cut off the ring? Is his jab still going to be lazy and how good is his gas tank now?

Wilder? I think hes done.

**KingKrypton** · 09-03-2020, 11:49 AM

Originally posted by R-Hand Southpaw

Fury is on record saying that the Cunningham fight was the hardest fight of his career. That was before Wilder but seems like he thinks Wilder was pretty easy.

Its tough to land big shots on Fury especially if they're telegraphed but I think a smaller quicker guy who has enough stamina to fight 12 rounds and enough pop that Fury respects it.

My pick? Usyk.

AJ lacks the ring IQ and the dog in him to win against Fury and Wilder is a one trick pony. Any other guy is going to have to hope Fury isn't dialed in.

I think Fury is easily #1 in the HW division too.

We haven't seen enough of this "new" AJ to make any have any real sense of what hes done to change himself. Now he boxes on the outside? But what can he do against a guy that isn't WAY overweight and knows how to cut off the ring? Is his jab still going to be lazy and how good is his gas tank now?

Wilder? I think hes done.

Usyk is the perfect example of someone who can beat Fury. Usyk is slick and quick. You're not going to overpower Fury and he is a great boxer himself.

Usyk might even have a shot at beating Joshua or Wilder but need to see how his chin holds up to bigger shots. Hopefully they make the Chisora fight to give us an idea.

**hhh1200** · 09-03-2020, 12:14 PM

That pity pat, turn, angle was basic vs. Witherspoon. Chisora is going to give him major issues like Salido gave Loma. Usyk is not Holyfield. If Usyk's power changes overnight, I want the number to his dealer

**R-Hand Southpaw** · 09-03-2020, 01:09 PM

Originally posted by KingKrypton

Usyk is the perfect example of someone who can beat Fury. Usyk is slick and quick. You're not going to overpower Fury and he is a great boxer himself.

Usyk might even have a shot at beating Joshua or Wilder but need to see how his chin holds up to bigger shots. Hopefully they make the Chisora fight to give us an idea.

I think his chin will hold up as much as any HW. My biggest concern for him is his gas tank. Usyk has a pretty good gas tank but I don't think it's elite.

Like Gvozdyk vs Beterbiev. He was winning that fight until his tank ran out and then he had no chance.

I could see Usyk on a similar situation.

Usyk probably weighing around 215-220 for his fights. It'll be tough when you got guys 240+ laying on him for 12 rounds

Who can beat top 3 guys