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ZERO Interest in seeing GGG vs Szeremeta and this late in his career GGG himself should not be wasting times with fights like thatLast edited by sicko; 09-01-2020, 06:13 PM.Comment
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You can basically make that case for any great fighter, or any fighter...when they fight other top, or even great, fighters, it is close or they lose. It is at least always closer vs those guys than it is vs the 'solid pro'...the 'solid pro' is what makes up 90% of the resume of nearly every fighter, ever. And dominating or even winning a high percentage of those fights is what makes most guys great all-time.
Depending on how one rates Derevychenko, GGG dominated against every 'solid pro' he faced...hardly lost a round and left no debate about who won those fights. Most other greats have a (sometimes much) worse record in those types of fights. They usually have a few controversial decisions or losses/draws in those fights, out of 10 fights.
In his top 3 fights, in his mid 30s - GGG outlanded Canelo and Jacobs, in 36 rounds, by 137 punches, more or less. 56, 49 and 32 punch advantage roughly in each fight. Basically outlanded Danny 9-2-1, Canelo (1) 10-1-1, and Canelo (2) 8-3-1 in rounds. If all of that isn't some form of domination, I don't know what is lol. It is honestly hard to dominate much more than that without scoring a KO, which is not always going to happen vs another game fighter.
Certainly fair to question what exactly GGG was/is. Was he just a dominator against good pros, who when faced with top level guys in their primes (and out of or towards the end of his), he wasn't as dominant. That by itself is impressive and kind of just how it goes in boxing, or life for that matter. Going 12 or 15ish-0 against other good pros with no asterisks is hard to come by all-time.
I've only seen 2 'close' GGG fights down the stretch...Ouma and SD. Thought Ouma was basically tied before the KO. And Sergei was outworking GGG for a lot of that fight, and won some clear rounds. He unfortunately though dug himself a little bit of a hole early on, and also was on the receiving end of the best punch or punches in some of those rounds where he was outworking GGG, which make for close rounds.
If someone legit had 7 rounds for Sergei live though, I would have no issue with that. A serious person really can't make a case for Danny getting 7 rounds, or Canelo 6 in any of those fights. The rounds just weren't there.
So again, hard to say exactly what GGG was. I think he was a consummate pro who would dominate against other good pros, because he was just a beast who had no real holes. To compete with GGG you needed to be pretty slick so you could avoid wearing down from his pressure. Most good pros just weren't good enough to hang with him. Regardless of the style differences in all those guys, none could even come close to doing anything against him. And he gets credit there from me.
If you had slickness (and a lot of other skills) then GGG would box his way in. And he has an all-time jab and would score at will with the jab and set up his other work. Idk I mean hard to really hate on the guy. I think if people really stack up what he did and compare it to other past 'greats' they will realize he certainly belongs up there in the convo, anywhere around 160.Comment
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I want to see him hang em up but i also wanna see him fight. At least one more time. How many fights is in his contract?Comment
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But past his prime, he beat Canelo twice lol. Fair play to Canelo though for fighting GGG at 160. He still lost twice though.
A very high percentage of people saw GGG beat Canelo, twice. Almost everyone says GGG won at least 1.
So saying so much against GGG, then naturally someone reading your comments would infer that Canelo is worse. Yet you exalt him above everyone lol. Just no credibility man.Comment
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