What exactly is a "Lucky Punch"?

[Eff Pandas]

Usually what the guy who was supposed to lose lands on the guy who was supposed to win.

[Shadoww702]

"Lucky punch" is a popular phrase in boxing that for most part don't make much sense. If I intend to throw a left hook and it lands, and knocks my opponent out - that's not luck. That's what I wanted to do.....No luck there.

I've heard people say Povetkin's left uppercut was a lucky punch. WTF? he knew exactly what he was doing and set it up perfectly.

What's your definition of a lucky punch and can you give some examples of fights where the winner landed a lucky punch to win the fight.

I'll let the expert Dougie Fischer explain what happened....

"He started tapping Whyte with a short left to the body in Round 1, and he continued this tactic every time they were in close. (I thought the left to the body would be one of Whyte’s keys to victory, but what do I know.) At the start of Round 5, he camouflaged a left to the body (at least that’s what I THINK he was doing) that he turned into a Burevestnik missile of a left uppercut. Povetkin, one step ahead of Whyte even when he fell behind on the scorecards due to the two knockdowns in Round 4, set it up brilliantly. Whyte had begun to anticipate the left to the body, but he was wide open for a left uppercut."

Doug Fischer

[Shadoww702]

Lucky Punch to me is when a guys closes his eyes and swings then when he opens them he realizes he knocked the other guy out.

[Citizen Koba]

I generally dislike the term, but there can be circumstances which are just unfortunate such as when a punch causes a fight changing heamatoma or somesuch... it can be exactly and precisely as hard as another punch - and you could land it 50 times on the exact same spot without causing that particular injury - but maybe if it landed fraction of a millimeter left or right, or if the blood vessel had been under contraction instead of distension it wouldn't have caused the bleed. That's basically chance, so while the punch itself ain't 'lucky' - in that it was thrown on target and not defended - the effect it produced kinda is in a weird way.

Anyways... not sure if it's a significant distinction, but just my 2p.

[Shadoww702]

Usually what the guy who was supposed to lose lands on the guy who was supposed to win.

That and this...

Usually when the guy you want to win so badly gets knocked out.

[SplitSecond]

Lucky Punch to me is when a guys closes his eyes and swings then when he opens them he realizes he knocked the other guy out.

Luck is about odds. It’s not lucky if you got a 100, 90 or 80 etc percent odds. What your describing is just lowering the odds more which requires being even luckier.

Depending on the fighter’s, the circumstances etc. The odds for whatever and a KO Raises or lowers, requiring more or less luck. Just like the odds of headbutts increases when it’s orthodox vs southpaw.

It;s all odds, and sometimes you get lucky. Whether you were aiming for something or not has little bearing on that.

Got a little deep there.

[Tails]

I don't see it being so much luck as the word implies but rather that the person who threw the shot was very fortunate that his opponent did not anticipate the shot properly. When 99% of the time the opponent would have blocked, avoided, or even disengaged and created space.

Think Mayweather getting clipped by Mosley in the 2nd round. Mayweather came back to beat the absolute hell out of Mosley for the next 10 rounds. It was not even close. Had that shot knocked Mayweather out it would have some element of luck to it as Mayweather clearly demonstrated that he was levels beyond Mosley. Most people would recognize that (unless they hold some bias) especially people that set betting odds.

Luck occurs in every sport to a certain degree due to all the variables that exist.

[aboutfkntime]

the harder I train, the luckier I get
~ Jack Dempsey


most of the replies in this thread are nonsense

[Blond Beast]

I don't see it being so much luck as the word implies but rather that the person who threw the shot was very fortunate that his opponent did not anticipate the shot properly. When 99% of the time the opponent would have blocked, avoided, or even disengaged and created space.

Think Mayweather getting clipped by Mosley in the 2nd round. Mayweather came back to beat the absolute hell out of Mosley for the next 10 rounds. It was not even close. Had that shot knocked Mayweather out it would have some element of luck to it as Mayweather clearly demonstrated that he was levels beyond Mosley. Most people would recognize that (unless they hold some bias) especially people that set betting odds.

Luck occurs in every sport to a certain degree due to all the variables that exist.

Well put. My brother is a miner and he was telling me about sum close disasters and the “The Swiss cheese effect” also known as “The cumulative act effect”, it’s worth looking up for sum people that are interested in this type of stuff.