Will Andrade give up on the 168 WBO? Give up on Charlos?

[Thuglife Nelo]

I wonder what Hearn and Andrade ever discuss.

Chavez Jr., Smith, BJS, GGG, Jacobs (if the money is right since they’re “friends)

I mean why is it so hard for Hearn to make in-house fights for his “hungry” guys?

Is Hearn only allowed to troll with GBP? Or was Farmer losing to Jo Jo and Jacobs to Canelo not worth it anymore?

[Doubledagger]

I wonder what Hearn and Andrade ever discuss.

Chavez Jr., Smith, BJS, GGG, Jacobs (if the money is right since they’re “friends)

I mean why is it so hard for Hearn to make in-house fights for his “hungry” guys?

Is Hearn only allowed to troll with GBP? Or was Farmer losing to Jo Jo and Jacobs to Canelo not worth it anymore?

Hearn has no power or leverage in the boxing world. He can't make jack happen.

Look at Devin Haney for example.

The guy was number 1 contender and set to fight Campbell for the WBC title, then all of a sudden Arum has Loma jump Haney and fight Campbell for the title, and then all of a sudden Haney can't even get a mandatory shot because Loma has become Franchise Champion.

Haney then gets injured and has surgery, and is immediately stripped of his title without being given a chance to recover.

Hearn has no pull or away, Andrade ain't never getting a meaningful fight as long as he is under Hearn.

The only reason Jacobs was able to get those opportunities was because Jacobs is vulnerable. Jacobs is chinny and been knocked out before.

Andrade has not shown that kind of vulnerability and he is so skilled, athletic, and slick that fighters would rather fight him as a last resort.

You need someone who has pull and can make things happen when you promote that kind of guy.

Spence once had the same problem but Haymon made things happen and now he getting all the smoke.

This is what Hearn is incapable of doing.

Just look how much he mismanaged Brook's career.

At one point he had both Khan and Brook under him and still couldn't make the fight happen.

Hearn is a joke, and so is Andrade for all the lame decisions he has made in terms of promotional and network choices.

[Thuglife Nelo]

Hearn has no power or leverage in the boxing world. He can't make jack happen.

Look at Devin Haney for example.

The guy was number 1 contender and set to fight Campbell for the WBC title, then all of a sudden Arum has Loma jump Haney and fight Campbell for the title, and then all of a sudden Haney can't even get a mandatory shot because Loma has become Franchise Champion.

Haney then gets injured and has surgery, and is immediately stripped of his title without being given a chance to recover.

Hearn has no pull or away, Andrade ain't never getting a meaningful fight as long as he is under Hearn.

The only reason Jacobs was able to get those opportunities was because Jacobs is vulnerable. Jacobs is chinny and been knocked out before.

Andrade has not shown that kind of vulnerability and he is so skilled, athletic, and slick that fighters would rather fight him as a last resort.

You need someone who has pull and can make things happen when you promote that kind of guy.

Spence once had the same problem but Haymon made things happen and now he getting all the smoke.

This is what Hearn is incapable of doing.

Just look how much he mismanaged Brook's career.

At one point he had both Khan and Brook under him and still couldn't make the fight happen.

Hearn is a joke, and so is Andrade for all the lame decisions he has made in terms of promotional and network choices.

Well Hearn and Andrade made it priorities to get the Charlo fight. There’s this insecure mysticism from black fans regarding the Andrade Charlo beef. Andrade intruded a Charlo presser and belittled they that the PBC fanboys choose to never bring up. That’s phagg0t shet. How is it that there’s a divide between Spence and Crawford fans, but there’s no escalated fan drama between TWO CHAMPS in Andrade vs Charlo? Regardless if it’s a platform insecurity, there’s no general narrative for it.

Then you’ve got Andrade calling out BJS even at a 168 fight... all these videos on YouTube. But BJS doesn’t say anything nor does Hearn.

I Think Hearn is a greedy a mofo.

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Well Hearn and Andrade made it priorities to get the Charlo fight. There’s this insecure mysticism from black fans regarding the Andrade Charlo beef. Andrade intruded a Charlo presser and belittled they that the PBC fanboys choose to never bring up. That’s phagg0t shet. How is it that there’s a divide between Spence and Crawford fans, but there’s no escalated fan drama between TWO CHAMPS in Andrade vs Charlo? Regardless if it’s a platform insecurity, there’s no general narrative for it.

Then you’ve got Andrade calling out BJS even at a 168 fight... all these videos on YouTube. But BJS doesn’t say anything nor does Hearn.

I Think Hearn is a greedy a mofo.

You must be Andrade's cousin or brother or parent or something.

There is no insecure mystecism concerning Andrade.

Andrade ducked Jermell Charlo two times and ducked Lara three times.

He wasted the smaller Charlo's time and money on two occasions and that's why the brothers don't want to give him the time of day and Lara too.

Everytime one of the fights was about to happen Andrade suddenly pulled out with some lame excuse or goes a different direction.

Even when he moved up to 160 it was because he was ducking Lara. He moved up two weeks after the WBA announced their intention to order negotiations begin between he and Lara.

He had been calling out Lara the whole time, but soon as the WBA declares their intention to order the fight, all of a sudden he is moving up to 160.

He gets to 160 and fights Alanta Fox or whatever his name is in September.m

Then Derevyanchenko calls him out and says he is gonna fight in January and wants to fight Andrade.

Crickets...

Chenko calls him out again and again.

Crickets...

Chenko sends him a contract.

Crickets...

Chenko comes out and complains that he sent Andrade's team a contract but they won't respond..

He calls him out again..

Crickets...

Chenko comes out one last time and says that if Andrade doesn't respond soon he'll get another opponent.

Crickets....

Chenko signs to fight another opponent.

Andrade re-appears right after saying that he was vising his grand parents or some lame excuse like that.

You can't defend this guy.

I know his story very well and I know it because I used to be his number one fan.

I followed every move he made.

You can't lie to me about Andrade.

[Fangedgrowl]

You must be Andrade's cousin or brother or parent or something.

There is no insecure mystecism concerning Andrade.

Andrade ducked Jermell Charlo two times and ducked Lara three times.

He wasted the smaller Charlo's time and money on two occasions and that's why the brothers don't want to give him the time of day and Lara too.

Everytime one of the fights was about to happen Andrade suddenly pulled out with some lame excuse or goes a different direction.

Even when he moved up to 160 it was because he was ducking Lara. He moved up two weeks after the WBA announced their intention to order negotiations begin between he and Lara.

He had been calling out Lara the whole time, but soon as the WBA declares their intention to order the fight, all of a sudden he is moving up to 160.

He gets to 160 and fights Alanta Fox or whatever his name is in September.m

Then Derevyanchenko calls him out and says he is gonna fight in January and wants to fight Andrade.

Crickets...

Chenko calls him out again and again.

Crickets...

Chenko sends him a contract.

Crickets...

Chenko comes out and complains that he sent Andrade's team a contract but they won't respond..

He calls him out again..

Crickets...

Chenko comes out one last time and says that if Andrade doesn't respond soon he'll get another opponent.

Crickets....

Chenko signs to fight another opponent.

Andrade re-appears right after saying that he was vising his grand parents or some lame excuse like that.

You can't defend this guy.

I know his story very well and I know it because I used to be his number one fan.

I followed every move he made.

You can't lie to me about Andrade.

dude no body ducks the Charlos.

[Thuglife Nelo]

You must be Andrade's cousin or brother or parent or something.

There is no insecure mystecism concerning Andrade.

Andrade ducked Jermell Charlo two times and ducked Lara three times.

He wasted the smaller Charlo's time and money on two occasions and that's why the brothers don't want to give him the time of day and Lara too.

Everytime one of the fights was about to happen Andrade suddenly pulled out with some lame excuse or goes a different direction.

Even when he moved up to 160 it was because he was ducking Lara. He moved up two weeks after the WBA announced their intention to order negotiations begin between he and Lara.

He had been calling out Lara the whole time, but soon as the WBA declares their intention to order the fight, all of a sudden he is moving up to 160.

He gets to 160 and fights Alanta Fox or whatever his name is in September.m

Then Derevyanchenko calls him out and says he is gonna fight in January and wants to fight Andrade.

Crickets...

Chenko calls him out again and again.

Crickets...

Chenko sends him a contract.

Crickets...

Chenko comes out and complains that he sent Andrade's team a contract but they won't respond..

He calls him out again..

Crickets...

Chenko comes out one last time and says that if Andrade doesn't respond soon he'll get another opponent.

Crickets....

Chenko signs to fight another opponent.

Andrade re-appears right after saying that he was vising his grand parents or some lame excuse like that.

You can't defend this guy.

I know his story very well and I know it because I used to be his number one fan.

I followed every move he made.

You can't lie to me about Andrade.

Chenko is Al Haymon. Lara been Al Haymon. Charlo’s are Al Haymon. Consistency. Haymon moves making it seem other fighters duck his fighters. If Andrade doesn’t sell seats...why didn’t Jermall Charlo accept Hearn’s offer for Andrade?

[Doubledagger]

dude no body ducks the Charlos.

Except for Andrade.

Andrade was offered more than triple his highest earnings when he was still WBO champion at 154 to fight Jermell and he rejected the offer.

Then he was offered even more money for Lara and rejected the offer.

After Floyd retired, the wbc held a tournament for the wbc title. They had Jermell fight Jackson for the wbc vacant title, with Charles Hatley said to be the first mandatory due to his ranking.

Andrade was ordered to fight Willie Nelson as they were ranked 3rd and 4th respectively, the winner would become the second mandatory for Jermell.

When you win a vacant wbc title, you get two consecutive mandatories to legitimize the title, which is why the winner of Andrade and Nelson would become the second mandatory.

Andrade won and was supposed to fight Charlo as his second mandatory.

But after Charlo beat his first mandatory, Hatley, by KO, Andrade all of a sudden decided to go the WBA route and challenged Jack Culcay for his WBA regular title.

When asked in an interview why he didn't just fight Lara, the super champion, he said he would only fight Lara as a last resort because Lara is boring.

So in that one move, he avoided both Jermell and Lara, for the SECOND TIME.

I already told you the story of how he avoided Lara for the third time when he was ordered to negotiate with Lara, and the subsequently ducked Derevyanchenko.

That's the story of Andrade for you.

Like I said, no one can lie to me about Andrade because I was his number one fan. I know every detail of his ducking career.

I admit Saunders is the one who ducked him this time, I admit GGG is currently avoiding him even though I would love for GGG to call his bluff just to see what happens.

That whole friends thing he has going with Jacobs is garbage though.

Spence fought Lamont Petersen despite the fact that they were friends.

He fought Porter despite the fact that he and Kenny Porter were very close.

He (Spence) and Virgil Ortiz have declared their intention to one day fight each other when they both move up to 154lbs despite being friends and growing up in the same gym.

So no, I'm not buying it!

[Doubledagger]

Chenko is Al Haymon. Lara been Al Haymon. Charlo’s are Al Haymon. Consistency. Haymon moves making it seem other fighters duck his fighters. If Andrade doesn’t sell seats...why didn’t Jermall Charlo accept Hearn’s offer for Andrade?

Lol, and you guys consistently use Al Haymon's name to excuse anything that a fighter from another stable does.

Did Al Haymon make Andrade say that he would only fight Lara as a last resort?

Did Al Haymon make Andrade abandon his mandatory position for Jermell in order to fight Chenko?

Did Al Haymon make him not respond to Chenko's call outs and contract until Chenko was signed for another opponent?

Get out of here man!

[Thuglife Nelo]

Lol, and you guys consistently use Al Haymon's name to excuse anything that a fighter from another stable does.

Did Al Haymon make Andrade say that he would only fight Lara as a last resort?

Did Al Haymon make Andrade abandon his mandatory position for Jermell in order to fight Chenko?

Did Al Haymon make him not respond to Chenko's call outs and contract until Chenko was signed for another opponent?

Get out of here man!

Those are rhetorical questions. You want to play cards? Why did Jermall Charlo duck Hearn’s offer when Vargas and Mikey got high pay days? Farmer or Jacobs? Making bigger M’s than Jermall did in a single fight. But forget those facts, why did Jermall Charlo duck an astronomical payday from Hearn for an Andrade fight? Or you want to bring up the past? We’re going to 2021 and these guys are still active. No point in bringing up 2015 years lol.