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  • ShaneMosleySr
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    #21
    “Struggled”

    Winning every round before knocking someone out in round seven.

    “Struggled.”

    Originally posted by Jordan2712
    At least with this list Ortiz has beat one top ten in his fighter in his career, and he even struggled with him.

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      #22
      Originally posted by ShaneMosleySr
      “Struggled”

      Winning every round before knocking someone out in round seven.

      “Struggled.”
      Yes struggled. Its Dave Allen. He's never even won a British title. So what is the number 3 boxer in the world (according to your deluded logic) fighting him for?

      Ortiz had a couple of fights under Eddie Hearn, against Dave Allen and Malik Scott. He looked terrible in both fights, and then ran back to America with his tail between his legs. He hasn't beat anybody!!

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        #23
        “Looked terrible” against Malik Scott.

        He won every round and knocked Scott down three times.

        “Looked terrible.”

        Originally posted by Jordan2712
        Yes struggled. Its Dave Allen. He's never even won a British title. So what is the number 3 boxer in the world (according to your deluded logic) fighting him for?

        Ortiz had a couple of fights under Eddie Hearn, against Dave Allen and Malik Scott. He looked terrible in both fights, and then ran back to America with his tail between his legs. He hasn't beat anybody!!

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          #24
          Originally posted by ShaneMosleySr
          “Looked terrible” against Malik Scott.

          He won every round and knocked Scott down three times.

          “Looked terrible.”
          Yes looked terrible. We're talking about Malik scott and Dave Allen here, they probably weren't even ranked in the top 50 at the time, but that's the kind of fighter's the bogeyman fights isn't it?

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            #25
            Who cares what they were ranked?

            He won every round against both of them. He knocked Allen out. He put Scott down three times.

            Scott finished his career at 38-3. He isn’t a pushover.

            Allen went the 10 round distance against Dillian Whyte in the fight right before Ortiz knocked him out.

            Why aren’t you riding Whyte for fighting Allen? Why aren’t you riding Whyte for not being able to stop him?

            It seems you have a double standard.


            Originally posted by Jordan2712
            Yes looked terrible. We're talking about Malik scott and Dave Allen here, they probably weren't even ranked in the top 50 at the time, but that's the kind of fighter's the bogeyman fights isn't it?

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              #26
              Originally posted by ShaneMosleySr
              Who cares what they were ranked?

              He won every round against both of them. He knocked Allen out. He put Scott down three times.

              Scott finished his career at 38-3. He isn’t a pushover.

              Allen went the 10 round distance against Dillian Whyte in the fight right before Ortiz knocked him out.

              Why aren’t you riding Whyte for fighting Allen? Why aren’t you riding Whyte for not being able to stop him?

              It seems you have a double standard.
              It was Whyte's 19th fight in his career, with very little amateur experience.

              Derek Chisora finished Scott in 6 rounds, and yet this world number 3 masterful boxer couldn't finish the job.

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                #27
                So you have a made up, B.S. excuse for Whyte because he’s British but Ortiz gets raked over the coals because he’s an American boxer’s best win. Got it.

                As for the Scott fight, I didn’t realize you had to win by knockout to win the fight. I didn’t realize a shut out 12 round decision with three knockdowns was a bad performance because it didn’t end within the distance lol.

                It’s kind of like how we know Floyd Mayweather is bad at boxing and Antonio Margarito is way better at boxing because Margarito knocked out Cotto and Mayweather couldn’t.

                Duh.

                Lol you’re so f**king biased and dense.


                Originally posted by Jordan2712
                It was Whyte's 19th fight in his career, with very little amateur experience.

                Derek Chisora finished Scott in 6 rounds, and yet this world number 3 masterful boxer couldn't finish the job.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by ShaneMosleySr
                  So you have a made up, B.S. excuse for Whyte because he’s British but Ortiz gets raked over the coals because he’s an American boxer’s best win. Got it.

                  As for the Scott fight, I didn’t realize you had to win by knockout to win the fight. I didn’t realize a shut out 12 round decision with three knockdowns was a bad performance because it didn’t end within the distance lol.

                  It’s kind of like how we know Floyd Mayweather is bad at boxing and Antonio Margarito is way better at boxing because Margarito knocked out Cotto and Mayweather couldn’t.

                  Duh.

                  Lol you’re so f**king biased and dense.
                  Have you seen the Ortiz v Scott fight? It was terrible. Lets not pretend that Ortiz is on Mayweather's level.

                  You call me biased but you have Ortiz ranked 3rd. Your delusional. You only have him ranked 3rd to make Wilder look better than what he actually is.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by ShaneMosleySr
                    Is there a chance that Joshua, Parker, Ruiz, PovetkinHunter and Whyte are all actually not very good at all and we’re giving them too much credit for beating up on one another?

                    I say obviously yes.
                    Than who is good?

                    Fury? Probably? But what when he loses? What if Povetkin beats Fury? Does it mean Povetkin is good or Fury is bad?

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                      #30
                      Do you want me to list all the times a top fighter shut out someone and it wasn’t a good fight?

                      I have Ortiz ranked third because he only lost to Wilder. He was outclassing wilder before he got caught.

                      Wilder gave Fury a draw, the only mark on his record.

                      It all makes sense but if you want to scream that I’m biased for a fighter I don’t even like, go for it.

                      Originally posted by Jordan2712
                      Have you seen the Ortiz v Scott fight? It was terrible. Lets not pretend that Ortiz is on Mayweather's level.

                      You call me biased but you have Ortiz ranked 3rd. Your delusional. You only have him ranked 3rd to make Wilder look better than what he actually is.

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