Whyte: "In the rematch I will handle business"

[Ray*]

I believe Whyte would win the rematch. That was Povetkin's last hurrah imo. It was some sort of lucky punch. Whyte was dominating, got overconfident, got caught, it happens

Rematch would be different

“lucky punch?” That was an amazing punch that has been set up seconds AFTER seconds before Pov landed it. Don’t insult the set up to that punch by calling it “Lucky” and yes this doesn’t change anything for Whyte. He was due to fight against in December even if he had beaten Povetkin. Now he doesn’t need to look for an opponent. He already knows who that is, he still need to win though and that gets him his spot back. And whoever the WBC champion is would still need to fight him.

[nacho daddy]

These teams at universities who design these guys training programs have proven time and again that they really don't add anything to a boxers arsenal with plyonmetrics, weight training and all this running on a bendy treadmill nonsense. The boxing world already had its own scientists doing experiments for years and years in what was best for getting ready for a fight. They were called boxing trainers. Even if they can make you hit abit harder, what difference does it make? It's like being hit by a hammer or a baseball bat. Both take you out.Ones easier to deliver though. You're right about Whyte being stiffer, slower. I think these training methods make your reflexes slower as well. I love weights, but they make you much stiffer even than calisthenics, if they're heavy for sure.

look at the fighters from the 30's to the 70's. went 15 hard rds before the massive use of PED's. angelo dundee had to be the best trainer on earth next to Ray arcel. Ali and ray leonard were almost as fresh in the 15th round as the first. same with duran. they can take the new training methods and shove them

[Mindgames]

Yes I know what you are saying about fundamental routines and theories that have been develop in boxing over decades of empirical experience/evidence 'Same thing can be said about other sports such as track and field athletes' certain countries stick to their own fundamental routines.

I am well rehearsed in sports science. Sports science over complicate things in most sports these days, it compartmentalizes everything etc 'It can sometimes be a business that wants to create more and more tasks for itself'.

There is no doubt that Dillian Whyte is training hard, but is it functional training? I don't think it is. 'You would think his footwork and movement would be exceptional, due to his kick boxing background' but that has slowly regressed since his fight with Anthony Joshua 'Observed Whyte against Joshua his movement, and speed was superior to what we saw last night' etc

Most of these gym based exercises you see him doing here, are not functional exercises 'I would not say they are a complete waste of time, but they will not be improving is performance optimally in my opinion' how many hours is he spending in that gym, laying down lifting weights? And I bet you these sports scientist have him attending a gym multiple times per day, doing tedious split routines 'Useless for athletes'.

Yeah, i dont see much carryover. I'm wondering if anyone really ever improved a great deal after any of this. People always talk Holyfield, but really it mainly worked to bulk him up. Don't know if he became a much better fighter. One thing I notice is how many of these guys end up with injuries like David Haye. Did we have a lot of ruptured biceps back in the day, or is that to do more with "supplements"?

[Mindgames]

look at the fighters from the 30's to the 70's. went 15 hard rds before the massive use of PED's. angelo dundee had to be the best trainer on earth next to Ray arcel. Ali and ray leonard were almost as fresh in the 15th round as the first. same with duran. they can take the new training methods and shove them

Ive even noticed the stamina drain that regular weight lifting gives me. It seems that it might give you less compliant arteries with the stiff muscles, cut down on the efficiency of the cardio system. You're so right about the old timers stamina. And they actually fought at a higher pace for me. Middleweights for instance, looked so much busier in Haglers day than say now with Golovkin and Canelo. And I like lifting, dont get me wrong. I can't believe I'm now of the same opinion as my first trainer who told me not to lift heavy or waste energy on it.

[VatoMulatto]

I believe Whyte would win the rematch. That was Povetkin's last hurrah imo. It was some sort of lucky punch. Whyte was dominating, got overconfident, got caught, it happens

Rematch would be different

Definitely not a lucky punch. He knew exactly what he was doing and set up that uppercut in a brilliant way.

[nacho daddy]

Ive even noticed the stamina drain that regular weight lifting gives me. It seems that it might give you less compliant arteries with the stiff muscles, cut down on the efficiency of the cardio system. You're so right about the old timers stamina. And they actually fought at a higher pace for me. Middleweights for instance, looked so much busier in Haglers day than say now with Golovkin and Canelo. And I like lifting, dont get me wrong. I can't believe I'm now of the same opinion as my first trainer who told me not to lift heavy or waste energy on it.

real good honest post. yes all the old timers said stay away from weights. you might be right about stiff muscles slowing blood flow

[Mindgames]

real good honest post. yes all the old timers said stay away from weights. you might be right about stiff muscles slowing blood flow

Thanks my man. Yeah, i didnt want to believe it. But I think we'll look back at this "strength and conditioning" era and shake our heads at how pointless alot of it was.

[hugh grant]

Lucky man to get rematch. Pac didn't get rematch and he only lost by way of tap tap by floyd.

[Jax teller]

Cue the glovegate, spygate, autopsy - according to “Dean Whyte”, his Afro hair weighed him down etc... Am expecting those excuses over the next few days, can we get some fans to start some rumours as well?

Doubt it, Wilder and his fans (who you seem to be getting confused with) having been making excuses his whole career, excuses for not fighting Klitschko, excuses for not fighting AJ, excuses for drawing with Fury and excuses for losing to Fury.

I also doubt you're going to get videos of Whyte trying to make his arse clap.

[Ray*]

Doubt it, Wilder and his fans (who you seem to be getting confused with) having been making excuses his whole career, excuses for not fighting Klitschko, excuses for not fighting AJ, excuses for drawing with Fury and excuses for losing to Fury.

I also doubt you're going to get videos of Whyte trying to make his arse clap.

That’s what I thought. Whyte is man enough to take his loss. His fans are not as emotional invest in him as the others were in Wilder. Not videos of Whyte twerking in a few months time, whilst hiding