DAZN/ pbc

[Curt Henning]

I am not certain, because I dont really follow the boxing business aspect. They had to pay a premium to get those fights. It ****** because everyone started to demand ridiculous purses as a result. But It was needed to convince fighters to fight on a new platform which hasnt establish itself yet.

People were also saying that PBC was overpaying fighters, but that was also calculated in order to sign the best fighters (and put competitors out of business).

I still base my opinion on DAZN trying to expand big time right before the virus hit. They wouldnt have done that if the numbers didnt match it at all.

https://media.dazn.com/en/press-rele...s-territories/

lol..people say pbc was overpaying...then theyll turn around and say that the pbc guys dont get side money and laugh at their "paltry" listed purses also....this guys speak out of both sides of their mouths all the time about pbc fighters "they make less than crawford"...."they are overpaid"....

of course you have to pay to get fights when youre a startup....roc nation had to do it years ago when they tried to make a mark...all understandable.....but they paid over and then some....

thats great that they want/wanted to expand more globablly...but every day you hear some drama about them and canelo and coming up with money and his opponent selection.....theres no buzz with andrade....wouldnt be much of one without the ruiz upset for AJ....

it wont be long before guys like ryan garcia and haney are seeing what others are getting for money at other shops and start demanding more...weve already seen ryan garcia talk money and complain....

i never wished for their downfall(and maybe some of us are being premature...maybe they will survive and thrive) but i certainly am not going to feel bad for them especially with them letting hearn run rampant and run his mouth telling lies to everyone

[rickJen]

Do you remember Thurman be Garcia on network tv. Thurman vs Porter on network tv.

Dazn has had 1 PPv level fight in Canelo for Jacobs.

They split the sport 3 ways. As soon as Dazn is gone the better for the sport.

Showtime is not free doe. You have to sign up for subscription.
It was around $16/mo = $192/year at that time.

So you don't remember Thurman lining up bums the likes of
Diaz, Zaveck, Chaves, Karass, Bundu, Collazo, etc. before
taking his first step up fight. I see.

Yeah, sounds good today, they're finally made,
but the history is easily forgotten by these fans of PBC.

[Curt Henning]

Showtime is not free doe. You have to sign up for subscription.
It was around $16/mo = $192/year at that time.

So you don't remember Thurman lining up bums the likes of
Diaz, Zaveck, Chaves, Karass, Bundu, Collazo, etc. before
taking his first step up fight. I see.

Yeah, sounds good today, they're finally made,
but the history is easily forgotten by these fans of PBC.

showtime also offers other programming that can appeal to the family/women

billions is one of the best/most underrated shows on tv....shameless had been widly popular...they offer good docs/movies and other programming........thats what made hbo such a powerhouse when you combined the big shows/movie with boxing...but someone messed it up combined with boxing general decline in popularity in the US....hbo had such wildly popular shows that had huge budgets it wasnt worth it to them to stay in boxing

so yeah about thurman....you listed all of those weak fights he was in.....yet despite being a year younger than bud crawford he has 3 guys on his resume all better than buds best win to date.....so what are you on about their chap?!?!

[asgarth]

lol..people say pbc was overpaying...then theyll turn around and say that the pbc guys dont get side money and laugh at their "paltry" listed purses also....this guys speak out of both sides of their mouths all the time about pbc fighters "they make less than crawford"...."they are overpaid"....

of course you have to pay to get fights when youre a startup....roc nation had to do it years ago when they tried to make a mark...all understandable.....but they paid over and then some....

thats great that they want/wanted to expand more globablly...but every day you hear some drama about them and canelo and coming up with money and his opponent selection.....theres no buzz with andrade....wouldnt be much of one without the ruiz upset for AJ....

it wont be long before guys like ryan garcia and haney are seeing what others are getting for money at other shops and start demanding more...weve already seen ryan garcia talk money and complain....

i never wished for their downfall(and maybe some of us are being premature...maybe they will survive and thrive) but i certainly am not going to feel bad for them especially with them letting hearn run rampant and run his mouth telling lies to everyone

It certainly doesnt look good at the moment. I am more invested about the success DAZN has with boxing personally, because I live in Germany and they are close to the sole provider of good boxing content (DAZN germany also purchases streaming rights for bigger PBC cards).

And I was really hopeful that DAZN would be able to make boxing more global. They started it with cards from Italy. It would have been awesome if they had been able to do this in multiple countries so that they could build more interest and a solid boxing structure in those countries and

[Curt Henning]

It certainly doesnt look good at the moment. I am more invested about the success DAZN has with boxing personally, because I live in Germany and they are close to the sole provider of good boxing content (DAZN germany also purchases streaming rights for bigger PBC cards).

And I was really hopeful that DAZN would be able to make boxing more global. They started it with cards from Italy. It would have been awesome if they had been able to do this in multiple countries so that they could build more interest and a solid boxing structure in those countries and

i hear you man...and im not rooting for their downfall....hope the rumormill isnt true....but to be honest i think they were in some trouble before the pandemic and there things pointing to that.....i think them trying to make fights with different promoters having their own interests at heart doesnt help

[Dallas' 4 Eva]

I'll tell the truth these delusional racist fanboys won't like to hear: DAZN IS TRASH, AND IT WAS DOOMED FROM THE START. Honestly once DAZN goes away it will be better for boxing, one less ****ing promoter to deal with. Let's hope that Top Rank can be next, how can y'all see the downfall of HBO Boxing and still give Top Rank a pass is mind boggling. Y'all really hate black men who are their own bosses that much?! ��

[whollisboxing]

I just wanna see good fights, regardless of network or promotional affiliation. Bob Arum, Al Haymon, Eddie Hearn, doesn't make a difference to me because I tune in to see the people in the ring, not the people sitting in the front row.

[Curt Henning]

I just wanna see good fights, regardless of network or promotional affiliation. Bob Arum, Al Haymon, Eddie Hearn, doesn't make a difference to me because I tune in to see the people in the ring, not the people sitting in the front row.

of course...at the heart of it thats what we all tune in for....at least real boxing fans.....but wed be naive to ignore the fact that these guys are in competition with each other and are going to do things to try to stall the other guys...its a business to these guys...the fighters and the promoters....

good fights get shelved or delayed because of these guys and their interests

if one of DAZN, the pbc or top rank were to go down it would likely help us get a step closer to fights getting made more easily

im not rooting for any of them to go under...but it certainly looks like DAZN might be in some trouble

[whollisboxing]

of course...at the heart of it thats what we all tune in for....at least real boxing fans.....but wed be naive to ignore the fact that these guys are in competition with each other and are going to do things to try to stall the other guys...its a business to these guys...the fighters and the promoters....

good fights get shelved or delayed because of these guys and their interests

if one of DAZN, the pbc or top rank were to go down it would likely help us get a step closer to fights getting made more easily

im not rooting for any of them to go under...but it certainly looks like DAZN might be in some trouble

I get what you're saying and I guess the market will dictate what happens.