Has fighting “in the pocket” become a lost art?

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  • GrandpaBernard
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    #41
    Originally posted by TonyGe
    I think taking the infighting out of boxing is losing a whole dimension to the sport. Infighting isn't clinching and smothering the other guy it's about manuvering the opponent around using your brain and landing clean hard punches to the body and the head. A short armed fighter is at a disavantage generally on the outside. Fair enough. The shorter fighter may be much more effective in the inside where he can use his ring IQ and strength to dominate the opponent. Except the referees tend to break things up too soon. It would be nice to see both fighters do what they do best.
    when did they start regulating inside fighting

    Seems every elite in the black and white days could CQC

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    • MDPopescu
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      #42
      Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT
      Regardless who you thought won, you have to admit Gavril gave him big problems.

      I had Gavril winning the first fight 115-112. The scorecards were horrendous IMO.
      ... of course my boy Ronnie gave him problems, but he was a 31 yo fighter with a long amateur career behind him... David wasn't even 21 yo...

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        #43
        Originally posted by Lomadeaux
        This was probably one of the most impressive things I ever saw Mayweather do (and that's obviously saying something).

        Yeah Floyd was very good at short range despite generally preferring to fight at mid-long.

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          #44
          Originally posted by MDPopescu
          ... of course my boy Ronnie gave him problems, but he was a 31 yo fighter with a long amateur career behind him... David wasn't even 21 yo...
          Yeah that’s all fine and good. All I said was Gavril gave him big problems whilst you originally suggested he didn’t.

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          • TonyGe
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            #45
            Originally posted by GrandpaBernard
            when did they start regulating inside fighting

            Seems every elite in the black and white days could CQC
            Taking out was a poor choice of words.

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            • macman
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              #46
              Artur Beterbiev is a bit of a monster on the inside.
              and Lomachenko can work at any distance..

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              • Lomadeaux
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                #47
                Originally posted by GrandpaBernard
                when did they start regulating inside fighting

                Seems every elite in the black and white days could CQC
                There were more fighters back then and more competition. Amateur tournaments would be packed. You could fight multiple times a night and they'd last a long time.

                There's some that will still last a month or so (only fighting on weekends).

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                • RuleOfTheSpear
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Lomadeaux
                  There were more fighters back then and more competition. Amateur tournaments would be packed. You could fight multiple times a night and they'd last a long time.

                  There's some that will still last a month or so (only fighting on weekends).
                  I agree with this one. Not to mention, amateurish boxers who have alot to prove would usually stay in the pocket.

                  Fighters mature and grow out of it.

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                  • Lomadeaux
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by RGJTMMRDCMJRJSM
                    I agree with this one. Not to mention, amateurish boxers who have alot to prove would usually stay in the pocket.

                    Fighters mature and grow out of it.
                    It's a beautiful thing to see. Two seasoned amateurs in small, local clubs. You watch the novices and can point out which ones have good potential, but then in comes open class and you can tell, okay this is the real deal.

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                    • Mike_b
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                      #50
                      Why? Who wants to be in the line of fire? Zipping by punches, zing ing past fists, it is a lost art. Using rolling with the punches instead of blocking them. Who other than somebody with huge hueves would invite that? Big respects to toney and the likes of similar to him!

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