Comments Thread For: Daily Bread Mailbag: Lomachenko vs. Lopez, Canizales, More

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The Daily Bread Mailbag returns with Stephen "Breadman" Edwards tackling topics such as the recent announced Vasiliy Lomachenko vs. Teofimo Lopez, boxers labeled as being basic, the level of Orlando Canizales, and more.

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[The plunger man]

Lomachenko is one of kind and is a master of his craft and anybody who tries to downplay how good he is is blinded by the race card.
We will not see a fighter like him for another 40 years

[Shadoww702]

Good read as always! I tend to think boxing only started in 2000's. And very ignorant about the past. I guess I need to start watching some old fights and educate myself...

[Shadoww702]

Lomachenko is one of kind and is a master of his craft and anybody who tries to downplay how good he is is blinded by the race card.
We will not see a fighter like him for another 40 years

Yeah that is very sad. As soon as he loses his entire career is gonna get blasted by idiots like he was just a euro bum.

Loma has grown on me and what he did to make this fight with Teo happen is\was just insane.

[Greenfield02]

Personally, I respectfully disagree with the breadman, I do think Loma is top 5 P4P at the moment, he's a good technical fighter, but as far as the amount of fights, for me it's not the reason that people don't consider him an all time great or the top guy P4P. The reason is not quantity but quality of opponents, Loma has some solid wins but not great wins against great fighters and was somewhat protected by Top Rank, kinda like Crawford is somewhat protected. Let's not forget that he never went right into a Salido rematch and never avenged that loss, for me to be great, avenging a loss ( if the fight is available and easy to put together, which it was, both fighters are with top rank) is something you have to take care of along with taking some serious challenges with top notch fighters. If in those 15 fights Loma would of fought the top of the heap, no doubt he's all time great, but he hasn't, so quality not quantity.

[Shadoww702]

Personally, I respectfully disagree with the breadman, I do think Loma is top 5 P4P at the moment, he's a good technical fighter, but as far as the amount of fights, for me it's not the reason that people don't consider him an all time great or the top guy P4P. The reason is not quantity but quality of opponents, Loma has some solid wins but not great wins against great fighters and was somewhat protected by Top Rank, kinda like Crawford is somewhat protected. Let's not forget that he never went right into a Salido rematch and never avenged that loss, for me to be great, avenging a loss ( if the fight is available and easy to put together, which it was, both fighters are with top rank) is something you have to take care of along with taking some serious challenges with top notch fighters. If in those 15 fights Loma would of fought the top of the heap, no doubt he's all time great, but he hasn't, so quality not quantity.

Why did they never do the rematch? I think I heard Salido say they kept low-lying him? And they kept changing the money agreed upon? Don't know for sure?

Benavidez just badly missed weight and no one bi@thing about that?

[ShoulderRoll]

Lomachenko is good. But just how good, in an all-time sense, is still open to debate.

His best wins are essentially Gary Russell Jr and Rigondeaux.

[BoxingIsGreat]

I wanted to vomit trying to digest the Mailbag writer's first response. I stopped there. He sounds even worse than the Loma***uals on here.

After he finishes sucking off Loma, he says: "I'm scared that Loma might get clipped." Scared for Loma? Why? Where's your objectivity? Shouldn't you be breaking down the fight objectively? Why should his loss and mighty struggles with bums be mentioned? GTFOH.

Loma gets hate because of people like you. He isn't great. It actually devalues the word. Greatness has to be earned, not bestowed. Amateur crap doesn't matter in the pros.

[Mammoth]

"Loma has a real chance to lose this fight. So much so, that if he wins, I would hope to see him retire because there is no way he runs the table on Davis, Haney and Garcia. And one LOSS and these geniuses will crush his legacy."

I don't agree with the idea that Loma should retire after this fight but I do agree with the idea that running the gauntlet through the young guys is near impossible. I made a thread saying I wouldn't pick one of those guys over Loma but I do think one of them would beat him.

[Smash]

i dont have much sympathy for the loma is small for 135 stuff, well if he is what is he doing up there? yeah he made good money in his last few fights fighting the UK guys, who btw he knew he could beat even on a bad night and undersized, so now he is fighting a big hitter who is about to outgrow this division and a young gun, this is a dangerous fight but i think loma will win, hes smart in the ring